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Joe Ovies

ACC moves creating a bitter bunch

Posted May 31, 2013

"...and if they hate, then let them hate and watch the money pile up." -- 50 Cent.

The Atlantic Coast Conference has settled into a nice, secure position in the last few months. Notre Dame joined in all sports, with the exception of an independent football scheduling arrangement. John Swofford swapped out Maryland for Louisville and is currently fighting for every penny of the exit fee before the Terrapins bounce for the Big Ten. The commissioner then hammered out a grant of right deal that killed off endless speculation that the ACC was on the verge of disbanding. 

Fans of the conference should be happy. School officials who were weary of constant realignment talk should be as well. But it's impossible to please everyone. Just ask bitter Maryland fans upset at recent (lack of) scheduling and one college president who stuck a foot in his mouth trying to take shots at Notre Dame. 

The ACC won't be sending North Carolina, Duke or NC State to College Park in football, men's basketball and women's basketball. Savvy observers know exactly what's going on here, which didn't sit well with Dave Tucker of Testudo Times.

"This latest scheduling announcement is just another example of how vindictive the ACC has become when it comes to Maryland's last season in the conference. If it was just football or just basketball, it would be one thing, but doing this across the three major sports is clearly a calculated effort by the All Carolina Conference to do whatever they can, within their power, to make the school's last season in the conference miserable."

To which I would respond, "and?"

Let's remember who initiated all this drama, Maryland supporters. The ACC is under no obligation to make their final year in the conference a warm and fuzzy send-off. The Terrapins are gone and the conference will make darn sure they get to keep the pets and favorite t-shirt in the breakup. 

It's funny. On one hand, Maryland loves to complain about the Carolina-centric nature of the ACC. On the other, schools from the Triangle are vital to their attendance numbers. If they think the conference they're leaving felt like working an outpost, nothing changes in the Big Ten. Just change Duke and Carolina to Ohio State and Michigan. 

Meanwhile, Ohio State president Gordon Gee probably needs to watch is sodium intake. He was rather salty about Notre Dame. 

The Associated Press obtained a recording of Gee taking jabs at the SEC, the ACC and raised a few eyebrows by slamming Catholics.

“And I want to make it very clear, we have never invited Notre Dame to join the Big Ten. And the reason is the fact that they — first of all they’re not very good partners. I’ll just say that. I negotiated with them during my first term and the fathers are holy on Sunday and they’re holy hell on the rest of the week. You just can’t trust those damn Catholics on a Thursday or Friday. Literally, I can say that.”

Folks have lost their job over less, but Gee is cushioned by his prolific fund-raising abilities. The issue for me is the total lack of self-awareness from Gee, who participates in a conference that happily added a school that can't balance a budget and another school that doesn't how to use Google in a job search.

These are your institutional leaders, ladies and gentlemen. No wonder it took them this long to figure out something as easy as a college football playoff.

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  • rosenthalbennett Jun 5, 2013

    Maryland only has to leave the ACC b/c of the god awful financial position Debbie Yow put us in during her time at MD. In regards to football, all you UNC and State fans seem to be forgetting you only beat MD by single digits this past year when we had our 5th string quarterback (AKA a reserve linebacker) starting behind center. It's gonna be nice to beat you, drop the mic and leave you behind.

  • lockwood1j Jun 5, 2013

    Sounds as is you are conceding the conference's wrongdoing and are telling Maryland fans and supporters that they deserve it based on the actions of administrators over which they have no control.

    That makes you sort of a jerkface as I see it.

  • JACKSONSAWYER IS SUPREME Jun 3, 2013

    saw a video of Joe O, first time I had seem. He looks like Andy Dick

  • VT1994Hokie Jun 1, 2013

    The original ACC leaders are dead and gone now. To see the landscape change so much since 1953 is mind boggling. I like that VT is in the ACC. But to hang an exit fee of this amount is wrong for any school. The lessor schools have a difficult time to even fund some sports. The almighty dollar has caused this to become a survival for way too many schools. MD was a solid fit for the ACC. One of the original members. They were losing money. To get to the point of having a Super Conference because of TV revenues, contractual agreements, and greed has caused this to become our reality.

    Appalachian State University even got caught up in this mess. They will lose money in my opinion. Fans aren't going to drive that far away. Common sense.

    Notre Dame came out obtaining everything they wanted. What does the ACC have anything remotely close to playing Cuse, L'Ville, and ND? They will see in a few years how the attendance will suffer. But. They still have the TV money don't they. I see more staying at home vs all of this travel.

  • StunGunn Jun 1, 2013

    ^^^^^

    I know academics was a consideration in selecting new schools to join the ACC, but I wish the new schools also fit the "footprint" of the ACC. ND isn't anywhere near the Atlantic Coast. Nothing against BC, but I thought that was going too far north. It doesn't seem to matter anymore anyway, with the B1G and Big 12 not having the correct number of schools to fit their moniker, ditto the Big East, as well as other conference names. And they call this progress.

  • rherring23 May 31, 2013

    View quoted thread

    Don't see how they have lost their mind. ND will be a big draw in football, but no better than Maryland in basketball, probably not as good. I'm sure the SEC is not too envious of ND or they would have went after them harder. No other commissioner of a major conference would let ND or any other school dictate the terms of joining as a partial member or full member. You just don't do that. They will generate revenue in football but not that much in their other sports for the ACC and the ACC only gets partial revenue by them not being a full member. It will not e that great of a deal for the ACC. And you are not going to see that many ACC fans travel to ND, Cuse or Pitt, Louisville was the only real good pick up for the ACC. The rest just don't fit that good. Kind of like Miami, they have never been a real good fit and their attendance has not been that great over the years, people just don't travel to schools that are not a good fit.

  • rherring23 May 31, 2013

    View quoted thread

    Don't like the expansion either, but it does seem like the only way the ACC could survive. Just don't think most of the new teams are a good fit. FSU in football and UNC in basketball would be a big pick up for any conference so if they were serious about wanting to leave I'm sure some other conference would be willing to work out a deal on the exit fees

  • rherring23 May 31, 2013

    View quoted thread

    Notre Dame hasn't exactly been the hottest chick in the class over the last decade or so. FSU and Clemson may be as good if not better than ND in football and basketball, ND will be lucky to be in the middle of the pack. They should have never been allowed to join the ACC if they did not join in all sports, we have a commissioner that lets a school dictate the terms to the conference. Actually of all the new schools Louisville may be the only good fit.

  • VT1994Hokie May 31, 2013

    View quoted thread

    I just went back to read these. You wrote a solid statement cuss. The exit fee is like holding schools hostage. I have never liked this idea. I would like to see schools make enough money to hold their status in any Conference. The fans quit attending Maryland games, and they had to bolt. Survive and move on.

    Swofford made the 3rd highest of any Commish in 2011. 1.7 million. Two years ago. How much is he making today? He did keep the ACC in tact. On down the line, I see the ACC losing schools, and re-structuring again. Too much power can come back to ruination. Again. I think that it's wrong to hold a school to this exit fee. Schools can't afford this if the ticket sales hit the pavement.

  • cjw6105 May 31, 2013

    Which SEC schools wanted Notre Dame? Curious minds want to know. And no, I haven't lost my mind. Notre Dame was in the Big East for decades but didn't share their football revenue. Why do people think that now they will?

    And as for Maryland, not my favorite people, but I'd trade Swofford away to get the Terps back in a minute. It's all about what's best for the ACC. Clearly having a charter member leave and replacing them with a partial member isn't helping the ACC.

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