UNC chancellor, Duke AD support reforms to NCAA rulebook

Posted August 10, 2011

— Dozens of university presidents are talking to the NCAA about how to fix a system many describe as simply broken. The conference, held in Indianapolis, includes UNC's Chancellor Holden Thorp and Duke's athletic director Kevin White.

“So we’ve got this proliferation of rules. It’s not really working well and it hasn’t worked well for quite awhile,” White said Tuesday.

On Tuesday more than 50 university presidents listened to presentations and discussed everything from the disparity of Division I athletic budgets to new scholarship rules.

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“I don’t think there’s anybody that disagrees that the NCAA rulebook is too complex, too big,” said NCAA president Mark Emmert. “The question is always what you do about it.”

The NCAA sessions at the retreat are closed to the media to encourage leaders to speak openly.

“Today’s session could only be characterized as really open, really honest, candid and I think it was highly effective,” White described of the sessions on day one.

The conversation has focused on the money side of things, in part, how to keep players from taking improper benefits.

It's an issue Chancellor Holden Thorp knows all too well, after some members of the football team were declared ineligible or were kicked off.

Thorp says part of the problem is some athletes may not have resources beyond scholarships. Some have suggested giving athletes stipends to cover expenses.

“That’s sometimes called the cost of attendance. I haven’t made my mind up about that,” said Thorp.

NCAA President Mark Emmert says the idea of a stipend will be studied.

“There is a very deep interest in doing that at least among a number of the conferences and I think we’ll probably find a way to do that,” said Emmert.

Emmert says the stipend would be optional by conference. He also says there is one thing the NCAA will never do when it comes to college athletes.

“There is an absolute complete consensus that we will never move to pay for play,” said Emmert.

On Wednesday the sessions will cover the complexity of the rulebook as well as academic integrity.


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  • Mr. French Aug 10, 2011

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    Boy-rubik-cube-wonder is puzzled by all this.

    Butch can't keep track of 27,000 students.

    Dickie can't keep track of 27,000 staff.

    Holden can't keep track of 27,000 rules.

  • The Gooch Aug 10, 2011

    "There is an absolute complete consensus that we will never move to pay for play," said Emmert.

    "Wait, this is really a rule?" asked Holden Thorp.

  • Ken D. Aug 10, 2011

    “There is an absolute complete consensus that we will never move to pay for play,” said Emmert.

    The man is a comic genius. Every scholarship athlete is being paid to play. If they don't play, they lose their scholarship.

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