Bobby Hurley, Jason Williams, who was better?

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  • Toddler10-21 Nov 20, 4:22 a.m.
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    Best of all time may have to go to Phil Ford in the ACC. King Rice did give Hurley fits. Why? I dont know.

  • larrys080 Nov 19, 9:24 p.m.
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    It is my humble opinion that not only was Jason williams better than Hurley but he just ... View More

    — Posted by MoDuke v2 is gone

    He proved how good he was at the pro level........with his motorcross skills!

  • JacobSummersEsquire Nov 19, 9:20 p.m.
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    It is my humble opinion that not only was Jason williams better than Hurley but he just ... View More

    — Posted by MoDuke v2 is gone

    Best of all time? You hitting that pipe again dipstick?

  • zanerx Nov 19, 8:33 p.m.
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    I don't "disagree" with the NCAA ruling on Maggette, but I think that Duke got off... View More

    — Posted by zanerx

    My point is if you are going to call out Roy for not policing his players' class choices, you sh... View More

    — Posted by 903 mens national championships

    despite your irrational, almost pathological hatred of Roy and UNC, I am glad to find out that... View More

    — Posted by zanerx

    The NCAA has been so embarrassed by the UNC slow motion cover up that they will be harder on... View More

    — Posted by The Texas Butler

    Sorry to disappoint you (not), but the current Rager frenzy inspired by the N&O's yellow journalism will come to nothing. However, you will soon have your own "mess" to revel in.

    lance + jewelry + undisclosed source of cash + undisclosed backer of financing = 2010 banner to dumpster.

    res ipsa loquitur

  • The Texas Butler Nov 19, 9:25 a.m.
    Veteran

    So you disagree with the NCAA ruling on Maggette?

    Proof that Lance was paid?

    But don't worry, if... View More

    — Posted by randythorntonv3

    I don't "disagree" with the NCAA ruling on Maggette, but I think that Duke got off... View More

    — Posted by zanerx

    My point is if you are going to call out Roy for not policing his players' class choices, you sh... View More

    — Posted by 903 mens national championships

    despite your irrational, almost pathological hatred of Roy and UNC, I am glad to find out that... View More

    — Posted by zanerx

    The NCAA has been so embarrassed by the UNC slow motion cover up that they will be harder on them now and probably make an example of them. I would hate to see Duke go through this mess but lucky for us we don't follow your Carolina way.

  • zanerx Nov 19, 12:03 a.m.
    Sports Legend

    That's funny, comparing a coach whose players took legitimately offered (although not up to... View More

    — Posted by zanerx

    So you disagree with the NCAA ruling on Maggette?

    Proof that Lance was paid?

    But don't worry, if... View More

    — Posted by randythorntonv3

    I don't "disagree" with the NCAA ruling on Maggette, but I think that Duke got off... View More

    — Posted by zanerx

    My point is if you are going to call out Roy for not policing his players' class choices, you sh... View More

    — Posted by 903 mens national championships

    despite your irrational, almost pathological hatred of Roy and UNC, I am glad to find out that if the NCAA chooses not to investigate the UNC basketball program on this, or investigates it and does not penalize UNC, you will accept their decision as just and reasonable.

  • 903 mens national championships Nov 18, 8:54 p.m.
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    Given the news today, UNC better start thinking about who they want as his replacement.... View More

    — Posted by 903 mens national championships

    That's funny, comparing a coach whose players took legitimately offered (although not up to... View More

    — Posted by zanerx

    So you disagree with the NCAA ruling on Maggette?

    Proof that Lance was paid?

    But don't worry, if... View More

    — Posted by randythorntonv3

    I don't "disagree" with the NCAA ruling on Maggette, but I think that Duke got off... View More

    — Posted by zanerx

    My point is if you are going to call out Roy for not policing his players' class choices, you should call out K for not policing his players' behavior.

    Policing class choices is easier to do because you have a academic advisor who's on payroll to do just that. And Roy had Walden - the most corrupt one he could find who magically disappeared right before UNC got busted.

    I don't know any college coach who accompanies their players 24x7 on Chrismas break.

    An ineligible player is ineligible, whether he plays in one game or eighty. Why did Duke not have to forfeit games?

    The NCAA investigated and determined Duke didn't have to forfeit games.

  • randythorntonv3 Nov 18, 8:51 p.m.
    Sports Legend

    So you disagree with the NCAA ruling on Maggette?

    Proof that Lance was paid?

    But don't worry, if... View More

    — Posted by randythorntonv3

    I don't "disagree" with the NCAA ruling on Maggette, but I think that Duke got off... View More

    — Posted by zanerx

    So "why" did Duke get off easy? Theory

    Again. Big difference between a one time... View More

    — Posted by randythorntonv3

    An ineligible player is ineligible, whether he plays in one game or eighty. Why did Duke not... View More

    — Posted by zanerx

    I asked you. I have no idea. Guess you will have to ask the NCAA.

    They ruled Duke was not aware and all happened prior to him attending Duke.

    Duke cooperated as they always do, so if you have an issue it is with the NCAA.

  • zanerx Nov 18, 8:43 p.m.
    Sports Legend

    That's funny, comparing a coach whose players took legitimately offered (although not up to... View More

    — Posted by zanerx

    So you disagree with the NCAA ruling on Maggette?

    Proof that Lance was paid?

    But don't worry, if... View More

    — Posted by randythorntonv3

    I don't "disagree" with the NCAA ruling on Maggette, but I think that Duke got off... View More

    — Posted by zanerx

    So "why" did Duke get off easy? Theory

    Again. Big difference between a one time... View More

    — Posted by randythorntonv3

    An ineligible player is ineligible, whether he plays in one game or eighty. Why did Duke not have to forfeit games?

  • randythorntonv3 Nov 18, 8:16 p.m.
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    Given the news today, UNC better start thinking about who they want as his replacement.... View More

    — Posted by 903 mens national championships

    That's funny, comparing a coach whose players took legitimately offered (although not up to... View More

    — Posted by zanerx

    So you disagree with the NCAA ruling on Maggette?

    Proof that Lance was paid?

    But don't worry, if... View More

    — Posted by randythorntonv3

    I don't "disagree" with the NCAA ruling on Maggette, but I think that Duke got off... View More

    — Posted by zanerx

    So "why" did Duke get off easy? Theory

    Again. Big difference between a one time occurrence and corrupt behavior over multiple years.

  • zanerx Nov 18, 7:27 p.m.
    Sports Legend

    They didn't have to settle. They had their choice of any coach in the country and chose the one... View More

    — Posted by still heelman1973

    Given the news today, UNC better start thinking about who they want as his replacement.... View More

    — Posted by 903 mens national championships

    That's funny, comparing a coach whose players took legitimately offered (although not up to... View More

    — Posted by zanerx

    So you disagree with the NCAA ruling on Maggette?

    Proof that Lance was paid?

    But don't worry, if... View More

    — Posted by randythorntonv3

    I don't "disagree" with the NCAA ruling on Maggette, but I think that Duke got off pretty easy, and I have to ask myself "why"?

    Lance - don't have proof, but deep down I think he got that money (and probably the necessary verbal backing for the $70K financing) from someone he shouldn't have gotten it from. Just a feeling.

    My point is if you are going to call out Roy for not policing his players' class choices, you should call out K for not policing his players' behavior.

  • seedofdoubt Nov 18, 7:17 p.m.
    Sports Legend

    Wojo! By far better than both of them. Talk about toughness, slap-the-floor-defense, and leadership.

  • randythorntonv3 Nov 18, 6:52 p.m.
    Sports Legend

    Maybe they would have settled for a coach that had built up some depth at the point guard during... View More

    — Posted by 903 mens national championships

    They didn't have to settle. They had their choice of any coach in the country and chose the one... View More

    — Posted by still heelman1973

    Given the news today, UNC better start thinking about who they want as his replacement.... View More

    — Posted by 903 mens national championships

    That's funny, comparing a coach whose players took legitimately offered (although not up to... View More

    — Posted by zanerx

    So you disagree with the NCAA ruling on Maggette?

    Proof that Lance was paid?

    But don't worry, if you say it over and over it will eventually become a Hole fact.

  • zanerx Nov 18, 6:43 p.m.
    Sports Legend

    The other three would have been more than happy if they could have had Marshall.

    — Posted by still heelman1973

    Maybe they would have settled for a coach that had built up some depth at the point guard during... View More

    — Posted by 903 mens national championships

    They didn't have to settle. They had their choice of any coach in the country and chose the one... View More

    — Posted by still heelman1973

    Given the news today, UNC better start thinking about who they want as his replacement.... View More

    — Posted by 903 mens national championships

    That's funny, comparing a coach whose players took legitimately offered (although not up to standard) classes to one who used a paid player and a paid-and-blinged-out player.

  • still heelman1973 Nov 18, 5:49 p.m.
    Sports Legend

    The other three would have been more than happy if they could have had Marshall.

    — Posted by still heelman1973

    Maybe they would have settled for a coach that had built up some depth at the point guard during... View More

    — Posted by 903 mens national championships

    They didn't have to settle. They had their choice of any coach in the country and chose the one... View More

    — Posted by still heelman1973

    Given the news today, UNC better start thinking about who they want as his replacement.... View More

    — Posted by 903 mens national championships

    In case you hadn't heard, "they" aren't there anymore. "They" are in the NBA. The "he" who remains will not have any say in who the UNC basketball coach will be - now or in 6-8 years when Roy retires.

  • 903 mens national championships Nov 18, 5:44 p.m.
    Sports Legend

    It's too bad UNC didn't have him in the Elite 8 last year. If they had, maybe Barnes, Henson,... View More

    — Posted by 903 mens national championships

    The other three would have been more than happy if they could have had Marshall.

    — Posted by still heelman1973

    Maybe they would have settled for a coach that had built up some depth at the point guard during... View More

    — Posted by 903 mens national championships

    They didn't have to settle. They had their choice of any coach in the country and chose the one... View More

    — Posted by still heelman1973

    Given the news today, UNC better start thinking about who they want as his replacement. Hopefully one that can run a clean program this time.

  • still heelman1973 Nov 18, 5:27 p.m.
    Sports Legend

    The other three would have been more than happy if they could have had Marshall.

    — Posted by still heelman1973

    Maybe they would have settled for a coach that had built up some depth at the point guard during... View More

    — Posted by 903 mens national championships

    They didn't have to settle. They had their choice of any coach in the country and chose the one... View More

    — Posted by still heelman1973

    Matt Doherty says hello!

    — Posted by MoDuke v2 is gone

    Totally useless and irrelevant comment, but hello back to Matt.

  • MoDuke v2 is gone Nov 18, 5:26 p.m.
    Sports Legend

    It's too bad UNC didn't have him in the Elite 8 last year. If they had, maybe Barnes, Henson,... View More

    — Posted by 903 mens national championships

    The other three would have been more than happy if they could have had Marshall.

    — Posted by still heelman1973

    Maybe they would have settled for a coach that had built up some depth at the point guard during... View More

    — Posted by 903 mens national championships

    They didn't have to settle. They had their choice of any coach in the country and chose the one... View More

    — Posted by still heelman1973

    Matt Doherty says hello!

  • zanerx Nov 18, 5:24 p.m.
    Sports Legend

    Too bad Duke didn't have Jay or Bobby when they played LEHIGH!!. Duke might have advanced to... View More

    — Posted by zanerx

    It's too bad UNC didn't have him in the Elite 8 last year. If they had, maybe Barnes, Henson,... View More

    — Posted by 903 mens national championships

    That Lehigh game still stings, eh?

    — Posted by The1

    It would sting more if Duke had 4 or 5 first round NBA draft picks and didn't win it all, let... View More

    — Posted by 903 mens national championships

    Nope, it doesn't. Your continued failure (with the exception of one year) is much worse, as is your coach's failure to develop an inside game. And once the 2010 banner is down, you won't even have that one year to crow about.

  • still heelman1973 Nov 18, 5:23 p.m.
    Sports Legend

    Too bad Duke didn't have Jay or Bobby when they played LEHIGH!!. Duke might have advanced to... View More

    — Posted by zanerx

    It's too bad UNC didn't have him in the Elite 8 last year. If they had, maybe Barnes, Henson,... View More

    — Posted by 903 mens national championships

    The other three would have been more than happy if they could have had Marshall.

    — Posted by still heelman1973

    Maybe they would have settled for a coach that had built up some depth at the point guard during... View More

    — Posted by 903 mens national championships

    They didn't have to settle. They had their choice of any coach in the country and chose the one they wanted. As you may recall, the backup was also out injured. And, don't forget, the 3rd stringer took them farther than Crymea took his team.

  • 903 mens national championships Nov 18, 5:17 p.m.
    Sports Legend

    Not my fault that you like to give the 'fellas' nicknames when you role play in the Bat Cave. ... View More

    — Posted by Smedley

    Too bad Duke didn't have Jay or Bobby when they played LEHIGH!!. Duke might have advanced to... View More

    — Posted by zanerx

    It's too bad UNC didn't have him in the Elite 8 last year. If they had, maybe Barnes, Henson,... View More

    — Posted by 903 mens national championships

    That Lehigh game still stings, eh?

    — Posted by The1

    It would sting more if Duke had 4 or 5 first round NBA draft picks and didn't win it all, let alone not see a Final Four.

  • 903 mens national championships Nov 18, 5:16 p.m.
    Sports Legend

    Not my fault that you like to give the 'fellas' nicknames when you role play in the Bat Cave. ... View More

    — Posted by Smedley

    Too bad Duke didn't have Jay or Bobby when they played LEHIGH!!. Duke might have advanced to... View More

    — Posted by zanerx

    It's too bad UNC didn't have him in the Elite 8 last year. If they had, maybe Barnes, Henson,... View More

    — Posted by 903 mens national championships

    The other three would have been more than happy if they could have had Marshall.

    — Posted by still heelman1973

    Maybe they would have settled for a coach that had built up some depth at the point guard during the regular season.

  • The1 Nov 18, 5:15 p.m.
    Sports Legend

    LOL @ smeagol.

    A professed dookie that doesn't even know who Tate Armstrong is.

    Precious.

    — Posted by kato_karma.v3

    Not my fault that you like to give the 'fellas' nicknames when you role play in the Bat Cave. ... View More

    — Posted by Smedley

    Too bad Duke didn't have Jay or Bobby when they played LEHIGH!!. Duke might have advanced to... View More

    — Posted by zanerx

    It's too bad UNC didn't have him in the Elite 8 last year. If they had, maybe Barnes, Henson,... View More

    — Posted by 903 mens national championships

    That Lehigh game still stings, eh?

  • still heelman1973 Nov 18, 5:13 p.m.
    Sports Legend

    LOL @ smeagol.

    A professed dookie that doesn't even know who Tate Armstrong is.

    Precious.

    — Posted by kato_karma.v3

    Not my fault that you like to give the 'fellas' nicknames when you role play in the Bat Cave. ... View More

    — Posted by Smedley

    Too bad Duke didn't have Jay or Bobby when they played LEHIGH!!. Duke might have advanced to... View More

    — Posted by zanerx

    It's too bad UNC didn't have him in the Elite 8 last year. If they had, maybe Barnes, Henson,... View More

    — Posted by 903 mens national championships

    The other three would have been more than happy if they could have had Marshall.

  • kato_karma.v3 Nov 18, 5:13 p.m.
    Sports Legend

    LOL @ smeagol.

    A professed dookie that doesn't even know who Tate Armstrong is.

    Precious.

    — Posted by kato_karma.v3

    Not my fault that you like to give the 'fellas' nicknames when you role play in the Bat Cave. ... View More

    — Posted by Smedley

    Naa...

    Lehigh is a dookie un-safe word.

    (7th Sour 16 or earlier flameout in the most recent 8 seasons)

    BTW, Tate Armstrong says hello.

  • 903 mens national championships Nov 18, 5:10 p.m.
    Sports Legend

    LOL @ smeagol.

    A professed dookie that doesn't even know who Tate Armstrong is.

    Precious.

    — Posted by kato_karma.v3

    Not my fault that you like to give the 'fellas' nicknames when you role play in the Bat Cave. ... View More

    — Posted by Smedley

    Too bad Duke didn't have Jay or Bobby when they played LEHIGH!!. Duke might have advanced to... View More

    — Posted by zanerx

    It's too bad UNC didn't have him in the Elite 8 last year. If they had, maybe Barnes, Henson, Marshall and Macadoo would have seen a Final Four before their college careers ended.

  • zanerx Nov 18, 5:08 p.m.
    Sports Legend

    LOL @ smeagol.

    A professed dookie that doesn't even know who Tate Armstrong is.

    Precious.

    — Posted by kato_karma.v3

    Not my fault that you like to give the 'fellas' nicknames when you role play in the Bat Cave. ... View More

    — Posted by Smedley

    Too bad Duke didn't have Jay or Bobby when they played LEHIGH!!. Duke might have advanced to the second round (their usual round of failure).

  • zanerx Nov 18, 5:05 p.m.
    Sports Legend

    Jason, hands down.

  • Smedley Nov 18, 4:41 p.m.
    Sports Legend

    LOL @ smeagol.

    A professed dookie that doesn't even know who Tate Armstrong is.

    Precious.

    — Posted by kato_karma.v3

    Not my fault that you like to give the 'fellas' nicknames when you role play in the Bat Cave. Is your safe word "Lehigh?"

  • Wolfpackalypse Now Nov 18, 4:29 p.m.
    All Star

    Williams was the better basketball player, while Hurley was the better driver.

  • MoDuke v2 is gone Nov 18, 4:21 p.m.
    Sports Legend

    Individually, Williams was much better, and he didn't need Laettner to carry him. Of course, he... View More

    — Posted by still heelman1973

    Williams would also have cooked him up a pot of king rice if their careers had intersected.

  • 903 mens national championships Nov 18, 4:14 p.m.
    Sports Legend

    Individually, Williams was much better, and he didn't need Laettner to carry him. Of course, he... View More

    — Posted by still heelman1973

    He didn't have Laettner, but for his last 2 seasons he had Duhon running the point which allowed him to score more and turn it over less.

  • still heelman1973 Nov 18, 4:08 p.m.
    Sports Legend

    Individually, Williams was much better, and he didn't need Laettner to carry him. Of course, he also didn't have King Rice to make him cry after every UNC-dook game either.

  • kato_karma.v3 Nov 18, 3:46 p.m.
    Sports Legend

    LOL @ smeagol.

    A professed dookie that doesn't even know who Tate Armstrong is.

    Precious.

  • hovis Nov 18, 2:21 p.m.
    All Star

    It is my humble opinion that not only was Jason williams better than Hurley but he just ... View More

    — Posted by MoDuke v2 is gone

    Best of all time...no.

  • MoDuke v2 is gone Nov 18, 2:13 p.m.
    Sports Legend

    It is my humble opinion that not only was Jason williams better than Hurley but he just possibly might have been the best point guard of all time.

    After all he even had a dome named in his honor. :)

  • Smedley Nov 18, 1:55 p.m.
    Sports Legend

    The hobbits understood from Gandolf that circumcision would rid them of any more problems from... View More

    — Posted by kato_karma.v3

    Repeating your nonsense quite a bit aren't you? You sound tired of being owned. Frustrated......Are you mad?

  • kato_karma.v3 Nov 18, 1:10 p.m.
    Sports Legend

    The hobbits understood from Gandolf that circumcision would rid them of any more problems from Smeagol.

  • 1969inyourface Nov 18, 12:38 p.m.
    Veteran

    This is a close one. The racoon conned ivestors out of thier money while Jay teeth conned himself into thinking he could ride a bike.

  • Smedley Nov 18, 12:33 p.m.
    Sports Legend

    Tate Armstrong.

    — Posted by kato_karma.v3

    Leve your bu++ buddies out of this.

  • weakened back Nov 18, 11:05 a.m.
    Sports Legend

    at driving i would call it a push or crash.

  • kato_karma.v3 Nov 18, 10:19 a.m.
    Sports Legend

    Kevin Billerman.

  • hovis Nov 18, 10:18 a.m.
    All Star

    Bobby Hurley. For floor management. Period.

  • kato_karma.v3 Nov 18, 9:56 a.m.
    Sports Legend

    Tate Armstrong.

  • Toddler10-21 Nov 18, 9:51 a.m.
    Sports Legend

    I know Hurley won two titles, and Williams one, but I think J. Will was better. Although you couldnt lose with either.

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