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  • PacknoPride Nov 24, 1:24 p.m.
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    I think if push comes to shove, both would go the way of the B1G Ten. The picture of four super... View More

    — Posted by cvholt87

    unc's academic side? ROFLMAO. you cannot be serious dude. don't EVEN include unc and Duke in the... View More

    — Posted by uncsuckz

    holt is a State fan.

  • Ken D. Nov 24, 9:02 a.m.
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    The last I saw based on current contracts just holding steady for the B1G the difference was... View More

    — Posted by hovis

    And I would guess that the Big Four conferences are maneuvering to keep the lion's share of the... View More

    — Posted by Ken D.

    To put that $20 million into perspective, NC State's entire athletic budget is $55 million. ... View More

    — Posted by Ken D.

    Ken you seem to have a high degree of knowledge about this topic. tell me, will Md be able to... View More

    — Posted by uncsuckz

    I would be stunned if Maryland actually pays anything close to that number. But I doubt the league would even acknowledge publicly that they are negotiating with the Terps while it works its way through the courts. They will still play in the ACC next season, so there is time to sort it out.

    I have no idea where the money will go, and I doubt the league does either, at this point. They've never done this before. I wouldn't be surprised to see exit fees becoming sort of a currency for conferences until everything settles down. That is, the B1G pays the lion's share of Maryland's exit fee to the ACC, which uses it to pay the exit fee of whoever replaces them, and so on down the food chain.

    It's all speculative at this point. At the end of the day, when the music stops, somebody's going to be left without a chair. Maybe they'll get the money as a consolation prize. :)

  • uncsuckz Nov 23, 9:53 p.m.
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    The last I saw based on current contracts just holding steady for the B1G the difference was... View More

    — Posted by hovis

    And I would guess that the Big Four conferences are maneuvering to keep the lion's share of the... View More

    — Posted by Ken D.

    To put that $20 million into perspective, NC State's entire athletic budget is $55 million. ... View More

    — Posted by Ken D.

    Ken you seem to have a high degree of knowledge about this topic. tell me, will Md be able to leverage down that 50 mil exit fee? and where does this money go? is it split among the conf teams or held in the league office?

  • uncsuckz Nov 23, 9:49 p.m.
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    I think if push comes to shove, both would go the way of the B1G Ten. The picture of four super... View More

    — Posted by cvholt87

    unc's academic side? ROFLMAO. you cannot be serious dude. don't EVEN include unc and Duke in the same breath where academics are concerned. Sheesh. you damm hole fans still don't get it.

  • Ken D. Nov 23, 6:20 p.m.
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    The last I saw based on current contracts just holding steady for the B1G the difference was... View More

    — Posted by hovis

    And I would guess that the Big Four conferences are maneuvering to keep the lion's share of the... View More

    — Posted by Ken D.

    To put that $20 million into perspective, NC State's entire athletic budget is $55 million. FSU, with $87 million in projected revenues, expects to be $3 million in the red.

  • Ken D. Nov 23, 6:14 p.m.
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    The last I saw based on current contracts just holding steady for the B1G the difference was... View More

    — Posted by hovis

    And I would guess that the Big Four conferences are maneuvering to keep the lion's share of the playoff swag - $500 million per year - for themselves. That could boost the difference to $20 million+. Not exactly chump change.

  • hovis Nov 23, 3:54 p.m.
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    The last I saw based on current contracts just holding steady for the B1G the difference was right at 15.8 million. It would not fluctuate much and if it did the only way the difference would dramatically shrink would be if the acc somehow renegotiated a larger contract. This, however, would not change the large sums that you would get right now from the big 10 which are a sure thing. Big 10 is a safe bet and a easy one to make.

  • Ken D. Nov 23, 2:15 p.m.
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    I would like to see an authoritative analysis of exactly how much a move from the ACC to the B1G would entail. At this moment, a major unknown is how much will ESPN pay for the playoff and related bowls, and how will that huge pie be divided. Also unknown is how much per team will The next B1G TV contract be worth.

    If I had to guess, when all that shakes out, an ACC team moving to the B1G could stand to pick up as much as $15 million more per year, depending on which teams change conferences. And if the ACC were to be substantially depleted by those moves, to the point where their current ESPN deal were no longer enforceable, that number could climb considerably.

    I don't think any ACC school, given the opportunity to go to the B1G, could afford to turn it down out of loyalty to either the conference or to any one rival.

  • sportznut628 Nov 22, 4:18 p.m.
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    Louisville and Ky are bitter rivals in separate conferences the rivalry will live on

  • hovis Nov 22, 12:26 p.m.
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    With 4 super conferences, those conferences could set up their own athletic association for... View More

    — Posted by PacknoPride

    Yes, I made that abandoning the NCAA point in detail on an earlier thread. I agree. And like I said to the fans that they are basing this new revenue on, a rivalry is whoever ESPN says are rivals. Think about that today while you watch Texas play tcu on a day it used to be Texas and Texas a&m. Then think about how ESPN will sell Manziel as the Heisman next year and tell you that Alabama and A&M are the "revenge rivalry" or something.

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