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  • Toddler10-21 Jan 20, 2013
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    Still trying to figure out when did Kelly become such a great defender? Also K stated that Hairston, and Jefferson didnt know the defensive, and offensive executions. What does that mean they dont know there plays? What do they do in practice everyday sit down and watch Kelly the great shoot wide open three's, and flop during two hours of practice? A diffrent game if Kelly were playing? What? To me thats just saying Duke would have won with Kelly in the line up.

  • kato_karma.v4 Jan 17, 2013
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    Back on topic.

    I.E., don't call it an excuse.

  • 903 mens national championships Jan 17, 2013
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    Jefferson commited 5 fouls in 12 minutes. I am pretty certain Ryan Kelly has never commited 5 fouls in 12 minutes, let alone fouling out of a game where he played his average 28 minutes. Of the 5 fouls by Jefferson, 3 were shooting fouls which gave State 5 points. The other two fouls gave them possessions and the time he spent on the floor in foul trouble gave State an even more favorable matchup for those possessions.

  • DooksucksV3 Jan 17, 2013
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    I wonder if K will throw a chair when he plays State again:

    http://larrybrownsports.com/college-basketball/coach-k-throws-chair-during-duke-game/56548

  • BlueDevils00 Jan 17, 2013
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    I never said Duke definitely would have beaten State with Kelly in the lineup. I said it would have been a different game. No guarantees with anything in life.

    And yes, Hairston and Jefferson played well offensively, but were extremely limited defensively. Kelly is 6'11" and experienced, Jefferson and Hairston are 6'8" and 6'7" and not nearly the defender that Kelly is.

    Again, State deserved to win that game, and there's no telling what would've happened with Kelly in the lineup. But I know it would have been a different game. No guarantee of a win, but definitely a different game.

  • 903 mens national championships Jan 17, 2013
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    You keep saying Duke can't beat State because State has CJ. Well if that's true, how'd Maryland do it?

    Is Maryland better than State at every position on the floor at all times?

  • dUNCe Jan 17, 2013
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    Players like CJ are nice but they're a dime a dozen. Duke will blow out this Pack team the next two times they play and probably because of Ryan Kelly. The Maryland game showed everyone what the Pack does under pressure.

  • Toddler10-21 Jan 17, 2013
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    Dont get me wrong Duke has played the toughest schedule in the country. But to say Duke would have beaten State if Kelly were in the lineup I just dont believe that. Also there are freshman, and there are freshman. ( Davis, Anthony, etc.) Cauley-Stein isnt in that class. Would Duke have beat Ville with Dieng in the lineup? None of these guys numbers are close to CJL. If Tyler Thornton were to be out oh boy Duke will never win another game! Oh yeah give your bench come credit, Jefferson, and Hairston 18 pts, 9 boards.

  • BlueDevils00 Jan 17, 2013
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    Now you're saying every senior should dominate every freshman? Thats horrible logic. Willie Cauley-Stein will be a lottery pick in the NBA draft this year.

    Even if you forget Louisville and Dieng, what's your excuse for Duke beating Kentucky, Ohio St, Minnesota (now ranked top-10), VCU (now ranked top-25), Temple, etc? Kelly didn't matter in those games?

    Kelly had 10pts, 3rbs, 3blks, 3stls vs Kentucky.
    - 11pts, 4rbs, 5blks vs VCU.
    - 14pts, 6rbs, 3blks vs Minnesota,
    - 14pts, 6rbs, 4assts vs Louisville,
    - 15pts, 3rbs, 3blks vs Ohio St.,
    - 14pts, 10rbs vs Temple.

    So yeah, he scored and defended well against those guys.

  • BlueDevils00 Jan 17, 2013
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    "How many Duke Kelly score" "Or 17 and bounds a game"

    Are you able to read and write?

  • Toddler10-21 Jan 17, 2013
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    How many Duke Kelly score in those games genius? Are any of these guys putting up 21 a game in there conference? Or 17 and bounds a game? Willie Stein? Wow a freshman going aganist a senior! Wow again! The point Im trying to make geniius is, Duke is using the Kelly excuse. Why cant I use the Dieng excuse?

  • BlueDevils00 Jan 16, 2013
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    Yeah, I thought it was a great game. And like I said, no excuses, NC State played better and deserved to win that game.

  • duane11 Jan 16, 2013
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    fair enough, sounds good to me

  • 903 mens national championships Jan 16, 2013
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    I don't know many Duke fans that feel the same way as this one. Most Duke fans I have talked to just saw a great game between two great teams and can't wait for the rematch.

  • duane11 Jan 16, 2013
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    it didnt take long for the duke arrogance to rival their hated heels....monkey see, monkey do?

  • DooksucksV3 Jan 16, 2013
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    Wow, the Dookie hurt is worse than I thought:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qS7nqwGt4-I

  • Coach Doherty Jan 16, 2013
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    Expert, LOLOLOLOL says ESPN? What a joke you and this article are.......

  • 903 mens national championships Jan 16, 2013
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    Maybe toddler should have done a quick google search on those facts before telling us how bad a defender he thinks Kelly probably is (despite never actually seeing him play D apparently).

  • dUNCe Jan 16, 2013
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    I'll bet you your trailer and all your cats that Duke beats State by 10 to 15 points at home and maybe 20 in the Duke Invitational (ACC Tournament).

  • dUNCe Jan 16, 2013
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    No Tyler can spell his name and tie his own shoes so he isn't like most of Tar Heel players. We do agree on something.

  • BlueDevils00 Jan 16, 2013
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    1st) its Dieng, not Deng. Luol Deng played for Duke genius.

    2nd) He guarded Chane Behanan from Louisville (7pts, 2/11 FG), Willie Cauley-Stein for Kentucky (4pts), Trevor Mbakwe for Minnesota (11pts), Deshaun Thomas from Ohio St (16pts, 6/14 FG).

    Do I need to mention any other future NBA players that he defended?

  • Toddler10-21 Jan 16, 2013
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    So I guess CJL will have let Kelly stand alone all day and shoot jumpers. Defense has improved, How many has he guarded as Athletic as CJL? All he can do is Flop. Winning percentage with him in the line up, when you beat Louisville was Deng in the lineup?

  • DooksucksV3 Jan 16, 2013
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    Let the whining continue for the Dookies.

    They are all hypocrites.

  • TruthisKnown Jan 16, 2013
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    903 is crying about his MCD boys are freshman....duhhh, Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! What a baby. He still has not publicly said which is is team yet. He blows like the wind!

  • BlueDevils00 Jan 16, 2013
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    Azzs gets lernt?

  • Banned by Sissies Jan 15, 2013
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    Speaking of excuses, what about a coward that starts a thread about Carolina getting beat by FSU last weekend and, well, has nothing to say when that azzs gets lernt? What is the excuse for that coward?

  • Lux Libertas Jan 15, 2013
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    Yeah........cuz everybody knows Joel James is EXACTLY THE SAME as Tyler Zeller.

    DERP-EE-DERP!!!

    (SMH at dookies' lack of basic basketball knowledge.)

  • 903 mens national championships Jan 15, 2013
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    When you're Duke and UNC, you are two of only a handful of programs that won't ever be able to use the loss of a player as an excuse. Because people say your McD's AAs coming off the bench that would start anywhere else should be able to come right in and make up for the loss. Even if they only average 8 minutes per game and are freshmen instead of seniors.

  • Tar Heels Victory-Show No Mercer Jan 15, 2013
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    Some of these same writers said that, UNC had enough talent to win last year after KM got hurt. One guy can be the difference between winning it all or coming up short. Injuries play a HUGE part in a teams success. I do not look at Kelly being out as an excuse, however, it does make Duke look a bit less Final Four capable.

  • BlueDevils00 Jan 15, 2013
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    Myron Medcalf (2:25 PM)

    You want opinion or fact? Fact: Kelly had the ACC's top plus-minus ratio (plus-190). Fact: Kelly is a 6-11 stretch-4 who's shot 52.1 percent from the 3-point line. Fact: His defense has improved from last season. ... Yes, that's a different game with him in there.


    http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/chat/_/id/46726

  • BlueDevils00 Jan 15, 2013
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    There are no excuses for injuries, ask UNC. But here's one experts opinion on the Duke/State game.

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