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  • davidvanwagener Jan 21, 2013
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    For the same reason it was fun to beat UNC and Smith in the 70s: it's very hard to do.

  • randythorntonv3 Jan 20, 2013
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    So how many did DES have in 36 years at UNCheat?

    What did Roy's last two NC teams comprise of?

    So 4 NC's over 21 years doesn't impress yu huh? Name another coach that has that many.

    You really are just a simpleton.

  • larrys080 .v1 Jan 20, 2013
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    Of course K has 4 National Championships! The youthfullness of the Duke fanbase makes K out to be some kind of God! Just seems like a low ammount of success over 21 years considering........Back to back doesn't impress me at all. Thats the luck of having players actually come back after winning one. That really never happens especially with todays players.

  • randythorntonv3 Jan 20, 2013
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    You seem to have all the UNCheat talking points and excuses down. Good job.

    Why did you not include his other NC's and that they were back to back.

    Why use a 21 year time period? Seems odd.

  • larrys080 .v1 Jan 20, 2013
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    They really aren't that good though! 29 years with a coach who has many advantages over every other coach......american express gave him exposure, USA coach gives him recruiting advantages and a private institution that makes their own rules. Plus he coaches at a university that could care less about the other big revenue sport (football) therefore all the resources go to the basketball program! Any college could excel at one sport if they only focused on it!
    With all those advantages ONLY 2 national championships in the last 21 years and one was a "paper championship"! Let the young ones continue to celebrate their savior under false pretenses. Congrats!

  • 903 mens national championships Jan 20, 2013
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    Because no UNC students have ever told me to Go to hell or eat s---!. And no State fans have ever done that either. Or Kentucky fans. Or Maryland fans.

  • zanerx Jan 20, 2013
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    Honestly, it's because of the combination of the fact that they are really good and the arrogant image they have built up over the years through factors such as floor slapping, K's surly appearance during games (even if it is largely intensity, not surliness), K's constant talk about "leadership," the flopping, the Laettner "stomp," the Chronicle incident, etc.

    An anecdote - I attended the Duke-Carolina football game this year. On the way back to my car, I and a lot of UNC fans were caught up in a bottleneck inside that small quad of dorms near the stadium. While waiting about 15 minutes for it to clear, we were repeatedly regaled by Duke students yelling, "Go to hell Carolina, go to hell! Eat s---!" Of course, we were trapped and couldn't just walk away; if someone had reacted to it, there could have been a riot. I've been going to college games a long time, and I've never experienced anything like that.

    After that, who wouldn't rejoice in beating 'em?

  • randythorntonv3 Jan 20, 2013
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    So 30+ years is not a long time?

  • larrys080 .v1 Jan 20, 2013
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    Not the case at all.....you are just like the typical Duke fanbase.......you didn't start pulling for them until they started winning which really hasn't been that long!

    By the way........didn't Duke play on those same "peach baskets"? Keep the excuses coming! Insecurity is so unattractive!

  • Toddler10-21 Jan 20, 2013
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    Agree with you Tar Heels Victory.

  • Tar Heels Victory-Show No Mercer Jan 19, 2013
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    I enjoy listening to the fans excuses! That is what is so much fun!

  • 903 mens national championships Jan 19, 2013
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    +peach baskets

  • Prof. Swahili Jan 19, 2013
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    "That'll teach them to supplant us as the #1 basketball program in the ACC and make us have to use those all time stats in order to just stay relevant." Posted by Prof. Swahili Jan. 18 8:07 p.m.

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    Do I know our fan base or what?

  • larrys080 .v1 Jan 19, 2013
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    Wow! If you really believe this you are sick! Lol!

  • uncsuckz Jan 19, 2013
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    ..and that's all that's left 080...Duke has overtaken unc in nearly every relevant statistic/event/accomplishment since K's tenure. Duke IS what unc WAS.

  • larrys080 .v1 Jan 19, 2013
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    Remember the last time Duke had as many National Championships as UNC?!? Oh, and don't forget the head to head all-time series!! Guess Carolina has been lucky a lot! Yep its great to be the best!

  • The1 Jan 19, 2013
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    The best part is listening to the dookies whine about losing and all the excuses they come up with.

  • SteveR Jan 19, 2013
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    As I am a UNC fan, how exactly did I lie? Give me 1 example, because I actually pride myself on the fact that I am very honest. I can give you a bunch of lying Duke fans yet I would never group all Duke fans in as being liars because it isn't true.

    Also, to the op teams tend to rush the court when they beat the #1 team in the country. Duke was the team to beat this year, and since they did that makes since they would rush the court. Also it has been a long time since NC State has been relevant and since they finally are again the students are excited to see this.

  • Sports Talk Only Jan 18, 2013
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    Wow, if there was EVER a case of the pot and kettle here. LMAO

    UNC = LIARS

  • BattlingBishop 5 Jan 18, 2013
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    lol

  • Prof. Swahili Jan 18, 2013
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    That's the only thing that we enjoy more than a Carolina victory.

    That'll teach them to supplant us as the #1 basketball program in the ACC and make us have to use those all time stats in order to just stay relevant.

  • BattlingBishop 5 Jan 18, 2013
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    Yeah...rivalry games are different. Everybody celebrates a W over a rival. Fans rush the court because, truth is, they probably didn't expect their team to win. Terp fans rushed the court after the W over State due to the following;
    State was coming off a big W over Duke, sitting atop the ACC, there is the Yow thing, & they won with a sec left on the clock. Combine the above & you have a wild celebration waiting to happen.

  • VT1994Hokie Jan 18, 2013
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    Your last sentence summed it up Battling. Tom Gieryn/903 Coastal wrote some interesting statements as well. Duke has been up for so long, it makes people get crazy when they can win against Duke.

  • BattlingBishop 5 Jan 18, 2013
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    Their successful tradition is the biggest reason. You have certain programs who tend to dominate most of the teams they play. When this occurs over a long period of time, due to the sustained success of certain programs, it brings a great deal of contempt from others. This is likely the main reason. When it comes to teams who are their equal, or a select few who may have accomplished a little bit more, the rivalry 'tude comes into play. Just human nature! Other fans will have personal reasons but most of it has to do with sustained success. When you're a consistent winner and inferior teams beat you, you can expect them & their fans to respond accordingly. To me, it is the ultimate compliment. They don't boo losers!

  • hi_i_am_wade Jan 18, 2013
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    If you want an exhaustive answer to this question, read this book.

    http://www.amazon.com/Duke-Sucks-Completely-Evenhanded-Investigation/dp/1250004632/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1358553679&sr=8-1&keywords=Duke+Sucks

    It has several factors: (1) Duke is portrayed in the media as something and the media fawns over Duke like boys going after the prettiest girl in school. (2) Duke isn't as pure as the virgin snow as the media makes out. See Corey Maggette and Lance Thomas. They try to do things the right way and the bad apples are few, but the media and the NCAA pretends Duke players have never done anything wrong. Every university has some problems. (3) There are plenty of Duke players and coaches who are just plain ... rude (offensive word filter safe) and yet the media makes out likes Duke players are one step above Mother Teresa. Christian Laetnaer's stomp. Gerald "the real victim" Henderson's elbow. And that is the short list.

    I could go on and on why even people in other countries hate Duke. Just buy the book.

  • uncsuckz Jan 18, 2013
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    wrong on every account. check these forums and tell me who the arrogant fanbase is...if you can be objective that long.

  • 903 mens national championships Jan 18, 2013
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    As an Orioles fan I fully understand why it's so great for other teams when they are lucky enough to beat Duke. Because there's no one I'd rather beat than the Yankees because (even though I hate them) the Yankees are the greatest franchise in history.

  • randythorntonv3 Jan 18, 2013
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    Well, you hit all the talking points. Good job.

  • Lux Libertas Jan 18, 2013
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    For me, it's mostly about bringing their arrogant fanbase down a few notches. And being a native Tar Heel, I have no real connection to New Jersey, so they are easy to make fun of.

    Good times, always.

  • TruthisKnown Jan 18, 2013
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    Mainly I think it is due to the hatred fans have for the dook program. Kiwi looks so smurky and gets away with so much with officials fans hate him. Dook players act like they are above everyone else when they are really losers as evidenced by their usual early tourney losses....like losing their LAST @ games last year. Officials have won many a game for dook. Thus fans are always happy when those aces lose!

  • Sports Talk Only Jan 18, 2013
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    UNC = LIARS

  • 903 mens national championships Jan 17, 2013
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    And last year Duke was 8-0 in ACC road games.

  • seedofdoubt Jan 17, 2013
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    Same reason the rest of the country smiles after UNC loses. It just feels like the right thing to do.

  • BlueDevils00 Jan 17, 2013
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    Pretty sure every ACC teams plays 9 conference road games alone, per season... Multiple at least 9 games/year X 10 years... at least 90 true road games, probably more like 110-115.

    So yeah, 31 losses out of 115 aint bad. Simple math tells me thats roughly 84 wins to 31 losses.

  • Brackettville Jan 17, 2013
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    Haters gonna hate

  • DooksucksV3 Jan 17, 2013
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    Because it is fun to beat a pro (paid) team.

  • weakened back Jan 17, 2013
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    out of 32 true road games

  • BlueDevils00 Jan 17, 2013
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    Over the past 10 years, Duke has lost 31 true road games. Opposing fans have rushed the court 25 of those times (80%).

    Crazy.

  • 903 mens national championships Jan 17, 2013
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    And it is those intimidating levels of success that makes a win over a Duke team seem like a momentous achievement, even when a worthy opponent like N.C. State could have arguably been favored over the Kelly-less Blue Devils. Given how many times-even under Krzyzewski's strict standards-Duke fans have gotten to rush the floor after championship wins, perhaps it's not altogether surprising that a win like the Wolfpack's induces a celebration normally reserved for trophy-earning victories.

  • 903 mens national championships Jan 17, 2013
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    I began to gather that the point was simply that they had beaten Duke. As Blue Devil fans, especially during the pressure of a season, I think it's sometimes difficult to perceive the true magnitude of Duke's impact in the college basketball world. Having cheered for the Blue Devils my entire life, I spend more time during games in a state of anxiety rather than confidence. But to many of Duke's opponents, the Blue Devil juggernaut seems so unstoppable from the other end that even a relatively mild upset triggers court-rushing euphoria.

    Only at my first "true" road game-attending as a fan in the bleachers rather than a writer on press row, for a game when school was in session-did I start to really understand the sheer size of the shadow that Duke basketball casts on the collegiate hoops landscape.

    "Duke being [No.] 1 is old. We know that," head coach Mike Krzyzewski said after his team defeated Wake Forest Jan. 5. "We've been No. 1 11 of the last 16 years. It's not big news."

    Indeed, Krzyzewski's history with the top spot in the polls is staggering. During his career in Durham, Krzyzewski has coached the No. 1 team in the nation for 216 games. He has coached an unranked team just 141 times.

    Even during the fallow periods of Krzyzewski's tenure, Duke has largely managed to remain a threat, never sacrificing its aura of invincibility in the way that North Carolina did during the Matt Doherty years or that Kentucky did under Billy Gillispie.

    None of this is to say that Duke is somehow a better program than its rivals. Nor is it to take away from the quality win that the Wolfpack earned Saturday. It's to note that even as the Blue Devil faithful ride what they perceive to be a harrowing roller coaster between national title contention and "merely" top-25 caliber play, other fans, experiencing Duke basketball from a greater distance, simply see the heights at which Krzyzewski consistently maintains his program.

  • 903 mens national championships Jan 17, 2013
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    http://www.dukechronicle.com/article/why-it-so-fun-everybody-beat-duke-basketball

    By Tom Gieryn

    January 14, 2013

    The movement started with several minutes left in the game. From my seat in the upper level of Raleigh's PNC Arena, it wasn't hard to notice the tide of N.C. State students making their way into the aisles, pressing down towards the court in anticipation of a Wolfpack victory. Their intention quickly became obvious: If the Wolfpack held on for an increasingly likely win over Duke, they were going to rush the court.

    I was stunned. The Wolfpack had been the preseason pick to win the ACC and had been ranked above the Blue Devils through the first two AP polls of the season. Even before the ranking bump they'll receive today for defeating Duke, they were ranked in the top 25. Their roster is one of the more talented groups in the country, and as big of a factor as Ryan Kelly's absence was, N.C. State has the pieces to take down Duke even with Kelly.

    The Wolfpack faithful seemed to be selling themselves short. Typically rushing the court is reserved for the once-in-a-lifetime sort of victories. Duke head coach Mike Krzyzewski insists that the court is only to be rushed when Duke wins a championship, whether conference or national. Exceptions can be justified for truly astounding upsets. But this was a game that N.C. State could have fully been expected to win.

    It was on my way out of the stadium that I began to appreciate the fans' motivation for storming the floor. Departing cars laid on their horns in celebration. Attendees crowed about the game's place among all-time great wins, even though it was a mid-January victory for a program that actually has a pretty significant history of playing spoiler to good Duke teams.

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