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Programs that deliver NBA talent By Jay Bilas and Chad Ford


Programs that deliver NBA talent By Jay Bilas and Chad Ford

http://insider.espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/8864714/jay-bilas-chad-ford-college-basketball-programs-best-producing-nba-players

The discussion: Which college basketball programs are the best at producing NBA-level talent?

Jay Bilas:


1. Kentucky Wildcats

2. Duke Blue Devils
Mike Krzyzewski has had pro after pro coming out of his program for years. I have always found it funny that Krzyzewski was criticized for his failure to produce great pros, while Dean Smith was praised (in part) for producing dominant NBA players such as James Worthy and Michael Jordan, yet at the same time criticized for holding those NBA All-Stars back while they were in college. Krzyzewski has coached one-and-dones such as Kyrie Irving, Luol Deng and Corey Maggette, and has coached big men such as Elton Brand, Carlos Boozer and Miles Plumlee. Right now, no coach has more active NBA players than Krzyzewski. Over the years, he has built teams around the strengths of his best players. When he has better guards, there is more of a perimeter focus. When he has better interior players, there is more of a focus to get the ball inside (as there is this season with Mason Plumlee and Ryan Kelly).

3. North Carolina Tar Heels
Roy Williams has "produced" pros at Kansas and at North Carolina, and has seen players at every position succeed at the next level. Williams has always had a focus of playing inside-out, and has recruited and used multiple big men, many of whom have gone on to play in the NBA. Like Duke and Kentucky, North Carolina gets high-level recruits with NBA talent, and has effectively worked with that talent to help individual players improve. Last season, Williams had four players drafted when Harrison Barnes, Kendall Marshall, John Henson and Tyler Zeller were all selected in the first round of the NBA draft.

RE: Programs that deliver NBA talent By Jay Bilas and Chad Ford


Chad Ford:

1. Kentucky Wildcats

2. Duke Blue Devils

While I know much of the Duke-hating basketball world loves to point out that Blue Devils players are soft or not great NBA players, I beg to disagree. The Wall Street Journal conducted a study last summer that combined the total number of minutes played in the NBA last season by the alumni of each university. Duke walked away with the most -- by more than 3,000 minutes. Duke, more than any other university, dominates the NBA.

Whether it's one-and-dones such as Kyrie Irving and Luol Deng or four-year players such as Mason Plumlee, Coach K always blows me away with his ability to adapt his coaching style to the team he has. That would be a major selling point if I was the father of an elite prospect.

The fact that elite NBA players loved playing for him at the Team USA level doesn't hurt, either. Krzyzewski knows how to coach the best. It's hard to argue with that pedigree.

3. Kansas Jayhawks

Other programs

Honestly after those three, it just gets a bit iffy for me to clearly delineate. UConn has a great track record, but with Jim Calhoun now in retirement, it's unclear whether that trend will continue.
UCLA, and head coach Ben Howland in particular, have obviously produced a lot of NBA talent. But whether Jay thinks it's ridiculous or not, NBA scouts have qualms with Howland's coaching style. And while it's clear he can recruit elite prospects, many of them end up getting draftedlower than where they should have relative to their peers.

RE: Programs that deliver NBA talent By Jay Bilas and Chad Ford

Then there's North Carolina. The Tar Heels have a grand tradition of producing NBA players under both Dean Smith and Roy Williams. Two years ago, North Carolina would have been on this list. But I've heard NBA scout after NBA scout make the same observation about Williams' recent teams: He still recruits as well as any coach in the country, but his players don't really seem to get any better the longer they stay in the program. Harrison Barnes and James Michael McAdoo, both elite high school recruits, are the most recent examples. Whether it's the fact that Williams recruits players who just happen to not put in extra work -- or whether he doesn't push them quite as hard -- a lot of North Carolina players seem to leave UNC with nearly the same skill set they came in with.

RE: Programs that deliver NBA talent By Jay Bilas and Chad Ford

Since the Dook players are pro before they leave (paid), do they really count?

RE: Programs that deliver NBA talent By Jay Bilas and Chad Ford

Since the Dook players are pro before they leave (paid), do they really count? 
- Posted by DooksucksV3

so credit and pay are the same thing? You might want to find a financial adviser.

RE: Programs that deliver NBA talent By Jay Bilas and Chad Ford

Since the Dook players are pro before they leave (paid), do they really count? 
- Posted by DooksucksV3


Link

RE: Programs that deliver NBA talent By Jay Bilas and Chad Ford

Good For Chad Ford and Jay Bilas. Pro players cannot help the Heels now, so good luck to them.

RE: Programs that deliver NBA talent By Jay Bilas and Chad Ford

Since the Dook players are pro before they leave (paid), do they really count? 
- Posted by DooksucksV3

so credit and pay are the same thing? You might want to find a financial adviser. 
- Posted by Certainly Duke is Duke


30K was cash, not credit.

Still no answer as to where it came from. Innocent people don't tend to wait for months to come up with a plausible explanation.

re

Since the Dook players are pro before they leave (paid), do they really count? 
- Posted by DooksucksV3


Link 
- Posted by randythorntonv3


Link to where the 30K came from?

I will be waiting.

RE: Programs that deliver NBA talent By Jay Bilas and Chad Ford

Since the Dook players are pro before they leave (paid), do they really count? 
- Posted by DooksucksV3

so credit and pay are the same thing? You might want to find a financial adviser. 
- Posted by Certainly Duke is Duke


30K was cash, not credit.

Still no answer as to where it came from. Innocent people don't tend to wait for months to come up with a plausible explanation.  
- Posted by DooksucksV3

ok...please let me know where you get all your money...every last dime.

RE: Programs that deliver NBA talent By Jay Bilas and Chad Ford

Since the Dook players are pro before they leave (paid), do they really count? 
- Posted by DooksucksV3

so credit and pay are the same thing? You might want to find a financial adviser. 
- Posted by Certainly Duke is Duke


30K was cash, not credit.

Still no answer as to where it came from. Innocent people don't tend to wait for months to come up with a plausible explanation.  
- Posted by DooksucksV3

ok...please let me know where you get all your money...every last dime.  
- Posted by Certainly Duke is Duke

I can tell you that I have never forgotten where 30K came from.

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