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  • BattlingBishop 5 Feb 18, 2013
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    Gonna have to disagree with you, Hokie. You can always find good players around the league who are playing for average teams. Green is a fantastic player but VT is currently in last place. Just depends on how you view things, I guess. I think POY/MVP awards should be given to those who lead their teams to titles or, at the very least, put their respective teams in the hunt for championships. IMHO, it's a disservice to the consistent winners to do it any other way. As I posted earlier, he should be first-team All-ACC, not POY. In fact, I think it comes down to Plumlee & Larkin when all is said & done.

  • VT1994Hokie Feb 18, 2013
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    ^^^ That's what I've been writing on here Battling. You wrote that a team should have a winning season to have a POY. That's not right. VT, WF, GT, and the losers can't change a darn thing right now with what they have with players and walk-ons. VT has walk-ons playing minutes.

  • BattlingBishop 5 Feb 18, 2013
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    I get where you're coming from. Some teams are faced with certain disadvantages. That doesn't mean they can't overcome 'em but it can be very difficult. It's not possible to lead the ACC in scoring and not have skills. Green is one of the most talented players in the league. He just needs a little help from his friends.

  • VT1994Hokie Feb 18, 2013
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    I will not make any excuses for VT in having 7 on a scholarship either Battling. 7. What would Duke be doing with 7? What would any team do with 7? So. You see my point about Erick Green? He has as much heart or more than any player in the ACC that I've see in years. Larkin can look like an All American with his supporting cast. Curry has won games for Duke, and Duke has a supporing cast too. There is no one in front of Green. Forget about winning a Championship. I look at the heart of a player. I'll take Green in front of Curry and all other PG's. That's my best. I'm pulling for Duke to beat Miami. To heck with Miami. I don't give a darn about these culls.

  • Brackettville Feb 18, 2013
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    I'm not worried about Duke. They will keep playing close games and Kelly will return in time to get tuned up for the tourney.

  • BattlingBishop 5 Feb 18, 2013
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    Not gonna make any excuses. The season can be a grind, both mentally & physically. Happens to all of 'em.

  • VT1994Hokie Feb 18, 2013
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    Duke's scheduling was out of whack. No one plays this number of games without resting a little. Mason had 4 points. Nah. This doesn't happen.

  • Brackettville Feb 18, 2013
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    Your basketball IQ is equal to you number of posts on here. Kelly pulled defenders and re bounders away from around Mason. Further increasing his ability to score and rebound and creating passing/driving lanes for our guards. Duke is still trying to adjust to playing without him. Duke needs Kelly to make a legitimate run for a NT. He is not our savior. Kelly is one of our 3 best players, a senior and a very, very good 3 point shooter. Now, go play with the other little children and let the big kids finish their discussion.

  • 903 mens national championships Feb 17, 2013
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    If Duke is better without him, then why was Kelly averaging 28 mpg? Wouldn't he average 0 mpg if they were better without him?

  • dougsand Feb 17, 2013
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    Duke is much better defensively without Kelly so I don't buy this "We miss Kelly" stuff. This is ACC play people..... they lost 3 games without Kelly and they would have lost multiple games with him in the lineup.

  • Tar Heels Victory-Show No Mercer Feb 17, 2013
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    Do I get the last laugh, like Maryland did yesterday?

  • Tar Heels Victory-Show No Mercer Feb 17, 2013
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    Well, you won't be happy now! LOL!

  • 903 mens national championships Feb 17, 2013
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    I'm happy whenever I get you to stop posting, so yes I'm happy now.

  • Tar Heels Victory-Show No Mercer Feb 17, 2013
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    Okay! Kelly is your savior! You happy now? LOL!

  • 903 mens national championships Feb 17, 2013
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    Kelly plays Duke TEAM defense better than his backups.

    With Kelly playing Duke TEAM defense, Duke is 15-0 this year.

  • Tar Heels Victory-Show No Mercer Feb 17, 2013
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    From what I seen of Duke over the years, they play TEAM defense. Even with Kelly, you can spread them out, like UNC did in the first half and drive to the basket. Kelly is important, but not as important as Duke fans would like most of us to think. He will not be the reason Duke wins it all or not this season.

  • 903 mens national championships Feb 17, 2013
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    Duke scores more easily when they can run their offense utilizing a great stretch 4. They had that when Kelly was healthy. And since you ignored defense, I will also comment on that. Kelly is a better defender than his backups.

  • 903 mens national championships Feb 17, 2013
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    This year's Duke team doesn't have enough talent to afford the loss of Ryan Kelly and expect to be a Top 5 team. However, people just assume Coach K will figure out a way to do it, that just speaks to his greatness.

  • Tar Heels Victory-Show No Mercer Feb 17, 2013
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    Also, you knew that UNC team depended more on KM to get the offense going. Dook still has plenty of scoring on this team to make up for Kelly. You do not easily replace a record breaking assist man a few days before an NCAA Tournament game.

  • Tar Heels Victory-Show No Mercer Feb 17, 2013
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    We are not the ones claiming to have the GOAT! Losing a player during the season is a lot different than losing one in the Tournament. There is no time to adjust. Even you know that.

  • 903 mens national championships Feb 17, 2013
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    How'd Roy adjust when Kendall Marshall was absent last March?

  • Tar Heels Victory-Show No Mercer Feb 17, 2013
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    But, I thought that you had the "GOAT"? He should have been able to make the necessary adjustments during his absence.

  • flairrick Feb 17, 2013
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    Says one of the UNCheat fans on the Duke board

  • DooksucksV3 Feb 17, 2013
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    Dookies are the biggest whiners.

  • Toddler10-21 Feb 17, 2013
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    Dont forget as K put it, " My guys were tired tonight"!

  • larrys080 .v1 Feb 17, 2013
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    0-0 without Henson, Marshall and Barnes!

    17-8 without Henson, Marshall and Barnes!

    Welcome to another 2010.......year of the paper champion!

  • fearthewhiteguy Feb 17, 2013
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    amen ! kelly as the new lebron

  • Toddler10-21 Feb 17, 2013
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    It was all because of Kelly that they won 15, and all because of Kelly that they lost 3. This dude has become the Chosen one Two. Lookout Lebron Kelly is coming!!

  • fearthewhiteguy Feb 17, 2013
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    shows how much we need him back

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