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  • SpartanDude Feb 19, 11:04 p.m.
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    Every game from the very 1st to the Tournament counts. All. The committee looks at all stats. ... View More

    — Posted by Hokies94

    Well, I have to say I am so disappointed that my Spartans could not seal the deal against the Hoosiers. We had our chances but just could not put the ball in the bucket in the last minute. IU showed they are #1. Miami squeezes out yet another close win, showing some toughness in tight end of game situations.

    I still expect coach Izzo to have the Spartans ready for another deep tourney run.

  • Hokies94 Feb 19, 7:40 p.m.
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    Every game from the very 1st to the Tournament counts. All. The committee looks at all stats. That's why UNC is a bubble team right now. Miami should have gone down by now in the ACC. Talking about lucky at times. Clemson had them @ home.

  • Leave it to Beaver Reruns Feb 19, 4:26 p.m.
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    To me, the whole argument that November and December games should not mean as much as January... View More

    — Posted by Leave it to Beaver Reruns

    I didn't say the Nov and Dec games are meaningless. I said they "don't mean as much to me... View More

    — Posted by 903 mens national championships

    I didn't say that you said they were meaningless either....

    You are right, there is no exact science to know for sure who is better than another....THANK GOD we have a tourney to determine the champ!

  • 903 mens national championships Feb 19, 4:24 p.m.
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    To me, the whole argument that November and December games should not mean as much as January... View More

    — Posted by Leave it to Beaver Reruns

    I didn't say the Nov and Dec games are meaningless. I said they "don't mean as much to me as results in February". With the key words being "to me". The reason why I probably believe there is some merit to this is because every march when the bracket comes out, one of the key criteria you hear about is Won-Loss record in the last 10 games.

    As for Duke. I don't feel as confident about Duke now as compared to how confident I was when they were 15-0.

    There is no exact science to debating which team is better than another. It's all based on personal opinion until everyone plays the exact same schedule.

  • Leave it to Beaver Reruns Feb 19, 4:02 p.m.
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    To me, the whole argument that November and December games should not mean as much as January and February games is bogus. If that is the case, we should start the season in January.

  • Leave it to Beaver Reruns Feb 19, 4:00 p.m.
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    I'd say Miami beating Michigan State is pretty impressive....right?

    What about that thumping... View More

    — Posted by Leave it to Beaver Reruns

    I'd say Miami beating Michigan State is pretty impressive....right?

    When was that played? I hate... View More

    — Posted by 903 mens national championships

    so by your standards, we deserve a 4 maybe 5 seed based on what we have done in January and... View More

    — Posted by Leave it to Beaver Reruns

    Duke's 22-3. I don't think any team with only 3 losses deserves to fall to a 4 or 5 seed. I... View More

    — Posted by 903 mens national championships

    but you just told me November games do not matter to you....so 10-3 makes a 2 seed?

  • 903 mens national championships Feb 19, 3:48 p.m.
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    Miami plays in a much weaker conference than Michigan State. Michigan State beat the cr*p out of... View More

    — Posted by 903 mens national championships

    I'd say Miami beating Michigan State is pretty impressive....right?

    What about that thumping... View More

    — Posted by Leave it to Beaver Reruns

    I'd say Miami beating Michigan State is pretty impressive....right?

    When was that played? I hate... View More

    — Posted by 903 mens national championships

    so by your standards, we deserve a 4 maybe 5 seed based on what we have done in January and... View More

    — Posted by Leave it to Beaver Reruns

    Duke's 22-3. I don't think any team with only 3 losses deserves to fall to a 4 or 5 seed. I think a #2 seed is fair.

  • Leave it to Beaver Reruns Feb 19, 3:41 p.m.
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    Miami has won 13 in a row overall and is undefeated in conference play including defeating the... View More

    — Posted by The1

    Miami plays in a much weaker conference than Michigan State. Michigan State beat the cr*p out of... View More

    — Posted by 903 mens national championships

    I'd say Miami beating Michigan State is pretty impressive....right?

    What about that thumping... View More

    — Posted by Leave it to Beaver Reruns

    I'd say Miami beating Michigan State is pretty impressive....right?

    When was that played? I hate... View More

    — Posted by 903 mens national championships

    so by your standards, we deserve a 4 maybe 5 seed based on what we have done in January and February?

    I totally agree about Izzo teams in Novemeber being different than Izzo teams in February, but I am not going to discredit Miami's head-to-head win over the Spartans.

  • 903 mens national championships Feb 19, 2:56 p.m.
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    While that is certainly true, when you look at recent play, MSU have performed at a higher level... View More

    — Posted by SpartanDude

    Miami has won 13 in a row overall and is undefeated in conference play including defeating the... View More

    — Posted by The1

    Miami plays in a much weaker conference than Michigan State. Michigan State beat the cr*p out of... View More

    — Posted by 903 mens national championships

    I'd say Miami beating Michigan State is pretty impressive....right?

    What about that thumping... View More

    — Posted by Leave it to Beaver Reruns

    I'd say Miami beating Michigan State is pretty impressive....right?

    When was that played? I hate to say it but wins in Nov and Dec don't mean as much to me as results in February.

    What about that thumping they put on Duke? Pretty impressive also.

    As much of a Duke homer as I am, I hate to say it but Duke without Ryan Kelly is no match for Miami.

    I am not trying to say that Miami should be ranked ahead of Michigan State, just saying it is not as cut and dry as you seem to make it.

    Point taken. Michigan State doesn't have a perfect conference record like Miami. I'm just saying when conference play starts, you have to take into account the stength of the conference when comparing teams from different conferences.

    I also take into account Izzo's history. It seems year after year, his teams start slow and off the radar then sometime in mid-Feb, they end up in the top ten and eventually a favorite to make the Final Four. This year's no different.

  • 903 mens national championships Feb 19, 2:51 p.m.
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    While that is certainly true, when you look at recent play, MSU have performed at a higher level... View More

    — Posted by SpartanDude

    Miami has won 13 in a row overall and is undefeated in conference play including defeating the... View More

    — Posted by The1

    Miami plays in a much weaker conference than Michigan State. Michigan State beat the cr*p out of... View More

    — Posted by 903 mens national championships

    Michigan has lost 3 of their last 5 games. Maybe they aren't quite as good as you think.

    — Posted by The1

    Feb 2 @#3 IND L81-73
    Feb 9 @WIS L65-62 OT
    Feb 12 @#8 MSU L75-52

    That's what I'm saying. Miami plays in a weak conference. Michigan State (and Michigan) play at places like IU and Wisconsin and Michigan State.

    I love the ACC and all, but c'mon, the Big Ten is just a better conference.

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