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  • larrys080 Aggies Dec 27, 3:01 p.m.
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    Here's a modest hint for you... Duke fans don't speak with a homogeneous voice. If... View More

    — Posted by BogeyBoy

    I have a better idea!! Lets compare numbers since your GOD K has been coaching college basketball... View More

    — Posted by larrys080 Aggies

    That's a wonderfully fresh and original idea Larry. But the conversation is about the state... View More

    — Posted by BogeyBoy

    But the conversation is about the state of each program now and how it has trended over recent... View More

    — Posted by The truth about MERCER!

    Lets not forget.......Carolina has had more talent leave early than Duke. They keep more upper classmen than all the other top programs and still flame out quicker.

    Have you ever wondered why they always win big early on in the season? Other teams are having to play their freshmen while K has all his starters returning. By the time March gets here the youth has caught up and the match is lit.....or should I say.......flaming out!

  • The truth about MERCER! Dec 27, 2:53 p.m.
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    But you dookies were the ones who said that winning rings was the most relevant criteria.

    Battier... View More

    — Posted by The truth about MERCER!

    Here's a modest hint for you... Duke fans don't speak with a homogeneous voice. If... View More

    — Posted by BogeyBoy

    I have a better idea!! Lets compare numbers since your GOD K has been coaching college basketball... View More

    — Posted by larrys080 Aggies

    That's a wonderfully fresh and original idea Larry. But the conversation is about the state... View More

    — Posted by BogeyBoy

    But the conversation is about the state of each program now and how it has trended over recent history.

    OK, that brings up back to this discussion

    Last 10 years 8 out of 10 years didn't make it past S16 (you know didn't beat a team seeded higher than 8) with all that talent. Something is not adding up eh?

    #1 Sweet 16 Losses
    2004, 2005,2006, 2011

    #2
    2008 (2nd rd loss) 2009, 2012 (1st Rd Loss Lehigh)

    #6
    2007 (1st rd loss)

    - Posted by sportznutV2.1

    http://www.wralsportsfan.com/unc/forum_topic/12434319/?d_full_comments=1&d_comments_page=4&d_id_edit=0&id=


  • larrys080 Aggies Dec 27, 2:53 p.m.
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    But you dookies were the ones who said that winning rings was the most relevant criteria.

    Battier... View More

    — Posted by The truth about MERCER!

    Here's a modest hint for you... Duke fans don't speak with a homogeneous voice. If... View More

    — Posted by BogeyBoy

    I have a better idea!! Lets compare numbers since your GOD K has been coaching college basketball... View More

    — Posted by larrys080 Aggies

    That's a wonderfully fresh and original idea Larry. But the conversation is about the state... View More

    — Posted by BogeyBoy

    So you're saying what coach K did early on at Duke doesn't count? Lmao! It's not because you won't...... you can't! Get you cheer sheet and keep up the good work young man!

  • BogeyBoy Dec 27, 2:52 p.m.
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    All-Star selections for Duke/UNC players who have joined the league since 1999 -

    Duke - 7
    UNC - 0

    — Posted by BogeyBoy

    Players with championship rings:

    Dook - 3
    UNC - 28

    — Posted by The truth about MERCER!

    Yep, 27 from the Dean Smith era and before and 1 since then. Like I said, it was a wonderful... View More

    — Posted by BogeyBoy

    It seems there is one thing we both agree on - Dean was much better at developing talent for the... View More

    — Posted by The truth about MERCER!

    Dean was a great coach and man. I genuinely respect him and what he accomplished. Declaring him "better at developing talent for the NBA" really has to take into account the skill of the players he was working with in the first place though.

    Unfortunately there's no real objective way to say just how good a player guy like say Walter Davis was before getting to UNC because there's no recruiting rankings or anything similar to that from those days. But certainly Dean did a great job of identifying talent and developing what he got.

    It's a shame that with all that talent he wasn't able to win as many games or National Championships as K. I can understand how you guy would pine for those days.

  • larrys080 Aggies Dec 27, 2:50 p.m.
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    Yet in that the same time period you reference (after Dean) dook has only one player as well.... View More

    — Posted by The truth about MERCER!

    Yes, it works to tell you that counting championship rings is a poor measure of the quality of... View More

    — Posted by BogeyBoy

    K has never produced a stud at the pro level that could take his team to the promised land. The ... View More

    — Posted by larrys080 Aggies

    Played their what?

    There's nothing desperate about Duke nation. In fact, things are... View More

    — Posted by BogeyBoy

    I'll take 2 of the 3 last National Championships between the two schools. What are you basing your chances on of having a beter chance to get to the final 4 this year? Based on what quality win? Seems to me that Carolina has a great recruiting class coming in next year too. Hope you arent basing your measurement of success on recruits that haven't even made it to campus yet......didn't a sure fire stud according to Duke fans just transfer? Be careful!

    ACC tournament championships are worthless now compared to many years ago. Just as if not more important to win the regular season. Head to head hasn't brought you any more success on a national level so really not a big deal! Remember.....on the big stage where it really matters that 0-1 against Lehigh trumps all!

    Basically you just rambeled but have nothing to show for it even with all that hot air!

    Oh........and your coach still hasn't produced ANYTHING even close during his time at Duke that can compare to what UNC has at the NBA level! Next.......

  • BogeyBoy Dec 27, 2:43 p.m.
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    Yes, it works to tell you that counting championship rings is a poor measure of the quality of... View More

    — Posted by BogeyBoy

    But you dookies were the ones who said that winning rings was the most relevant criteria.

    Battier... View More

    — Posted by The truth about MERCER!

    Here's a modest hint for you... Duke fans don't speak with a homogeneous voice. If... View More

    — Posted by BogeyBoy

    I have a better idea!! Lets compare numbers since your GOD K has been coaching college basketball... View More

    — Posted by larrys080 Aggies

    That's a wonderfully fresh and original idea Larry. But the conversation is about the state of each program now and how it has trended over recent history.

  • 903 Hail Providence Dec 27, 2:41 p.m.
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    Yep, 27 from the Dean Smith era and before and 1 since then. Like I said, it was a wonderful... View More

    — Posted by BogeyBoy

    Yet in that the same time period you reference (after Dean) dook has only one player as well.... View More

    — Posted by The truth about MERCER!

    Yes, it works to tell you that counting championship rings is a poor measure of the quality of... View More

    — Posted by BogeyBoy

    But you dookies were the ones who said that winning rings was the most relevant criteria.

    Battier... View More

    — Posted by The truth about MERCER!

    Nope, you only partially quoted my post. I was responding to kato's ""in the NBA, relevancy equates to playoffs.."" quote by stating that winning rings were relevant to any discussion about playoffs... I, in fact, disagree with his original post that "in the NBA, relevancy equates to playoffs.. Barkley, Malone, Stockton didn't win as much in the playoffs as say Robert Horry or Derek Fisher but that doesn't take away from their accomplishments in their NBA careers...

  • BogeyBoy Dec 27, 2:38 p.m.
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    Yep, 27 from the Dean Smith era and before and 1 since then. Like I said, it was a wonderful... View More

    — Posted by BogeyBoy

    Yet in that the same time period you reference (after Dean) dook has only one player as well.... View More

    — Posted by The truth about MERCER!

    Yes, it works to tell you that counting championship rings is a poor measure of the quality of... View More

    — Posted by BogeyBoy

    K has never produced a stud at the pro level that could take his team to the promised land. The ... View More

    — Posted by larrys080 Aggies

    Played their what?

    There's nothing desperate about Duke nation. In fact, things are pretty wonderful these days. Our guy in the pros are second only to Kentucky in terms of productivity and considerably better than what you're putting out. We're 24-11 against you guys in the last 36 games. We've won 10 out of the last 14 ACC Championships. Our team this year is ranked higher than yours and has a much better shot at the Final Four. Our recruiting class next year features the number 1, 4, 10, and 36 players in the class.

    But hey, you guys did produce Michael Jordan 30 years ago so you go that going for you.

  • The truth about MERCER! Dec 27, 2:31 p.m.
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    All-Star selections for Duke/UNC players who have joined the league since 1999 -

    Duke - 7
    UNC - 0

    — Posted by BogeyBoy

    Players with championship rings:

    Dook - 3
    UNC - 28

    — Posted by The truth about MERCER!

    Yep, 27 from the Dean Smith era and before and 1 since then. Like I said, it was a wonderful... View More

    — Posted by BogeyBoy

    It seems there is one thing we both agree on - Dean was much better at developing talent for the NBA that Kreschewskii.

  • The truth about MERCER! Dec 27, 2:29 p.m.
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    Yet in that the same time period you reference (after Dean) dook has only one player as well.... View More

    — Posted by The truth about MERCER!

    Yes, it works to tell you that counting championship rings is a poor measure of the quality of... View More

    — Posted by BogeyBoy

    But you dookies were the ones who said that winning rings was the most relevant criteria.

    Battier... View More

    — Posted by The truth about MERCER!

    Here's a modest hint for you... Duke fans don't speak with a homogeneous voice. If... View More

    — Posted by BogeyBoy

    Duke fans don't speak with a homogeneous voice

    Be careful, coach krechewski may call you in to his office for an "interview".

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