Pomeroy ratings: UNC #10, Dook #28

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  • 903 Hail Providence Feb 7, 4:39 p.m.
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    This is why markie's only concerned with defense:

    http://www.newsobserver.com/2014/02/07/3599709/duke-gets-balanced-scoring-from.html

    Earlier this week, Duke took over the top of Ken Pomeroy’s adjusted offensive efficiency list, averaging 128.6 points per 100 possessions against an average Division-I offense (or, if you prefer to think of it this way, the Blue Devils would average 1.286 points per possession against the average D-I defense).

    Duke shoots well, especially from 3-point range. The Blue Devils’ 41.6 shooting percentage from 3-point range ranks fourth nationally, behind just Creighton (which slipped to No. 2 in adjusted offensive efficiency rankings) Rider and Utah State.

    The Blue Devils’s 3-point production is fairly balanced— Andre Dawkins, who has made a team-high 55 3s, accounts for 24.9 percent of Duke’s total made 3s. For comparison’s sake, North Carolina’s Marcus Paige accounts for 57.6 percent of the Tar Heels’ made 3s and Syracuse’s Trevor Cooney accounts for 57.1 percent of the Orange’s 3s.

  • heelraiser1 Feb 7, 5:19 p.m.
    Towel Boy

    This is why markie's only concerned with defense:

    http://www.newsobserver.com/2014/02/07/3599709/d... View More

    — Posted by 903 Hail Providence

    Slap.

  • dooksucks4 Feb 8, 9:24 a.m.
    Towel Boy

    Dook defense 93rd. Ask the Broncos about all offense and no defense.

    — Posted by dooksucks4

    So now you have gone from kenpom to just D huh.

    Sad, smh. :)

    — Posted by heelraiser1

    You have to look at everything. Sadly, Dookies don't want to look at defensive stats.

  • dooksucks4 Feb 8, 9:24 a.m.
    Towel Boy

    This is why markie's only concerned with defense:

    http://www.newsobserver.com/2014/02/07/3599709/d... View More

    — Posted by 903 Hail Providence

    Having to talk about offense because your defense is so pathetic. We have seen this tape before, it usually leads to an early exit.

    :-)

  • KT donated a coloring book to ke Feb 8, 11:02 a.m.
    Towel Boy

    Dook defense 93rd. Ask the Broncos about all offense and no defense.

    — Posted by dooksucks4

    So now you have gone from kenpom to just D huh.

    Sad, smh. :)

    — Posted by heelraiser1

    You have to look at everything. Sadly, Dookies don't want to look at defensive stats.

    — Posted by dooksucks4

    Sure, let's look at everything. What is Dukes kenpom now and what is UNCheats?

    Why are you... View More

    — Posted by heelraiser1

    I'm not sure why he changed it up either. In his opening post, he was ONLY talking about the complete ranking. Why would somebody flip-flop like that?

  • BogeyBoy Feb 8, 11:20 a.m.
    Sports Legend

    Dook defense 93rd. Ask the Broncos about all offense and no defense.

    — Posted by dooksucks4

    So now you have gone from kenpom to just D huh.

    Sad, smh. :)

    — Posted by heelraiser1

    You have to look at everything. Sadly, Dookies don't want to look at defensive stats.

    — Posted by dooksucks4

    That's true, you do have to look at everything including how a team is playing currently. KenPom ratings are wonderful tools to look at how a team has performed over the course of the season but they don't really indicate how teams are trending. So with a team like Duke - who has made a dramatic improvement in defense (and rebounding) in recent weeks the overall numbers are indicative of current performance.

    For example, I'm pretty sure you feel that 21 next to the Heels' name makes them a better defensive team than Duke. But if you look at common opponents in recent weeks you see -

    (Opponent - ORtg vs. Duke - ORtg vs. UNC)
    Wake - 100 - 94.8 (Duke win, UNC loss)
    Miami - 79.3 - 94 (Duke win, UNC loss)
    Syracuse - 130 - 93.4 (Duke loss, UNC loss)
    Virginia - 106.6 - 116.9 (Duke win, UNC loss)
    NCSU - 83.3 - 88.6 (Duke and UNC wins)

    So in the 5 common opponents both teams have played since Duke faced Clemson the Duke defense has performed better than UNC's in 4 of them. Duke's overall defensive numbers are hurt by their poor performances in the earlier part of the season. But clearly from the recent play there's been a lot of improvement.

  • 903 Hail Providence Feb 8, 11:22 a.m.
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    This is why markie's only concerned with defense:

    http://www.newsobserver.com/2014/02/07/3599709/d... View More

    — Posted by 903 Hail Providence

    Having to talk about offense because your defense is so pathetic. We have seen this tape... View More

    — Posted by dooksucks4

    it usually leads to an early exit

    what does being ranked 30th in the kenpom lead to?

  • dooksucks4 Feb 8, 12:56 p.m.
    Towel Boy

    This is why markie's only concerned with defense:

    http://www.newsobserver.com/2014/02/07/3599709/d... View More

    — Posted by 903 Hail Providence

    Having to talk about offense because your defense is so pathetic. We have seen this tape... View More

    — Posted by dooksucks4

    it usually leads to an early exit

    what does being ranked 30th in the kenpom lead to?

    — Posted by 903 Hail Providence

    Usually somewhere farther down the line than Dook.

  • dooksucks4 Feb 8, 12:57 p.m.
    Towel Boy

    Dook defense 93rd. Ask the Broncos about all offense and no defense.

    — Posted by dooksucks4

    So now you have gone from kenpom to just D huh.

    Sad, smh. :)

    — Posted by heelraiser1

    You have to look at everything. Sadly, Dookies don't want to look at defensive stats.

    — Posted by dooksucks4

    Sure, let's look at everything. What is Dukes kenpom now and what is UNCheats?

    Why are you... View More

    — Posted by heelraiser1

    I am sure you were looking for knives when you were threatening the high school kids.

    :-)

  • heelraiser1 Feb 8, 12:58 p.m.
    Towel Boy

    So now you have gone from kenpom to just D huh.

    Sad, smh. :)

    — Posted by heelraiser1

    You have to look at everything. Sadly, Dookies don't want to look at defensive stats.

    — Posted by dooksucks4

    Sure, let's look at everything. What is Dukes kenpom now and what is UNCheats?

    Why are you... View More

    — Posted by heelraiser1

    I am sure you were looking for knives when you were threatening the high school kids.

    :-)

    — Posted by dooksucks4

    Link to that. You just love making stuff up don't you?

  • dooksucks4 Feb 8, 12:58 p.m.
    Towel Boy

    Dook defense 93rd. Ask the Broncos about all offense and no defense.

    — Posted by dooksucks4

    So now you have gone from kenpom to just D huh.

    Sad, smh. :)

    — Posted by heelraiser1

    You have to look at everything. Sadly, Dookies don't want to look at defensive stats.

    — Posted by dooksucks4

    That's true, you do have to look at everything including how a team is playing currently. ... View More

    — Posted by BogeyBoy

    Actually they have fallen about 30 spots in the past two weeks in the adjusted D category.

  • heelraiser1 Feb 8, 12:59 p.m.
    Towel Boy

    So now you have gone from kenpom to just D huh.

    Sad, smh. :)

    — Posted by heelraiser1

    You have to look at everything. Sadly, Dookies don't want to look at defensive stats.

    — Posted by dooksucks4

    That's true, you do have to look at everything including how a team is playing currently. ... View More

    — Posted by BogeyBoy

    Actually they have fallen about 30 spots in the past two weeks in the adjusted D category.

    — Posted by dooksucks4

    Where it matters, RPI, AP, kenpom, where are Duke and UNCheat ranked.

    Let's compare.

  • dooksucks4 Feb 8, 2:01 p.m.
    Towel Boy

    You have to look at everything. Sadly, Dookies don't want to look at defensive stats.

    — Posted by dooksucks4

    That's true, you do have to look at everything including how a team is playing currently. ... View More

    — Posted by BogeyBoy

    Actually they have fallen about 30 spots in the past two weeks in the adjusted D category.

    — Posted by dooksucks4

    Where it matters, RPI, AP, kenpom, where are Duke and UNCheat ranked.

    Let's compare.

    — Posted by heelraiser1

    Sad that Kenpom didn't allow Dook to beat ND at ND like UNC just did.

    :-)

  • rx74u2nv Feb 8, 2:16 p.m.
    Sports Legend

    That's true, you do have to look at everything including how a team is playing currently. ... View More

    — Posted by BogeyBoy

    Actually they have fallen about 30 spots in the past two weeks in the adjusted D category.

    — Posted by dooksucks4

    Where it matters, RPI, AP, kenpom, where are Duke and UNCheat ranked.

    Let's compare.

    — Posted by heelraiser1

    Sad that Kenpom didn't allow Dook to beat ND at ND like UNC just did.

    :-)

    — Posted by dooksucks4

    When does the banner go up?

  • BogeyBoy Feb 8, 3:10 p.m.
    Sports Legend

    So now you have gone from kenpom to just D huh.

    Sad, smh. :)

    — Posted by heelraiser1

    You have to look at everything. Sadly, Dookies don't want to look at defensive stats.

    — Posted by dooksucks4

    That's true, you do have to look at everything including how a team is playing currently. ... View More

    — Posted by BogeyBoy

    Actually they have fallen about 30 spots in the past two weeks in the adjusted D category.

    — Posted by dooksucks4

    Solely the result of the Syracuse game which could easily be just an aberration. When you give up a 130 ORtg in a single game it's going to impact the numbers a bit.

  • dooksucks4 Feb 8, 3:49 p.m.
    Towel Boy

    You have to look at everything. Sadly, Dookies don't want to look at defensive stats.

    — Posted by dooksucks4

    That's true, you do have to look at everything including how a team is playing currently. ... View More

    — Posted by BogeyBoy

    Actually they have fallen about 30 spots in the past two weeks in the adjusted D category.

    — Posted by dooksucks4

    Solely the result of the Syracuse game which could easily be just an aberration. When you give... View More

    — Posted by BogeyBoy

    Or it could be that they played a few weak teams in the middle. Dook's D has been a thorn like UNC's FT shooting has been, until today at least.

  • 903 Hail Providence Feb 8, 4:55 p.m.
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    This is why markie's only concerned with defense:

    http://www.newsobserver.com/2014/02/07/3599709/d... View More

    — Posted by 903 Hail Providence

    Having to talk about offense because your defense is so pathetic. We have seen this tape... View More

    — Posted by dooksucks4

    it usually leads to an early exit

    what does being ranked 30th in the kenpom lead to?

    — Posted by 903 Hail Providence

    Usually somewhere farther down the line than Dook.

    — Posted by dooksucks4

    like last year?

  • KT donated a coloring book to ke Feb 8, 5:02 p.m.
    Towel Boy

    Actually they have fallen about 30 spots in the past two weeks in the adjusted D category.

    — Posted by dooksucks4

    Where it matters, RPI, AP, kenpom, where are Duke and UNCheat ranked.

    Let's compare.

    — Posted by heelraiser1

    Sad that Kenpom didn't allow Dook to beat ND at ND like UNC just did.

    :-)

    — Posted by dooksucks4

    When does the banner go up?

    — Posted by rx74u2nv

    +2014

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