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Pomeroy ratings: UNC #10, Dook #28

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  • dooksucks4 Feb 8, 12:56 p.m.
    Towel Boy

    This is why markie's only concerned with defense:

    http://www.newsobserver.com/2014/02/07/3599709/d... View More

    — Posted by 903 Hail Providence

    Having to talk about offense because your defense is so pathetic. We have seen this tape... View More

    — Posted by dooksucks4

    it usually leads to an early exit

    what does being ranked 30th in the kenpom lead to?

    — Posted by 903 Hail Providence

    Usually somewhere farther down the line than Dook.

  • 903 Hail Providence Feb 8, 11:22 a.m.
    Veteran

    This is why markie's only concerned with defense:

    http://www.newsobserver.com/2014/02/07/3599709/d... View More

    — Posted by 903 Hail Providence

    Having to talk about offense because your defense is so pathetic. We have seen this tape... View More

    — Posted by dooksucks4

    it usually leads to an early exit

    what does being ranked 30th in the kenpom lead to?

  • BogeyBoy Feb 8, 11:20 a.m.
    Sports Legend

    Dook defense 93rd. Ask the Broncos about all offense and no defense.

    — Posted by dooksucks4

    So now you have gone from kenpom to just D huh.

    Sad, smh. :)

    — Posted by heelraiser1

    You have to look at everything. Sadly, Dookies don't want to look at defensive stats.

    — Posted by dooksucks4

    That's true, you do have to look at everything including how a team is playing currently. KenPom ratings are wonderful tools to look at how a team has performed over the course of the season but they don't really indicate how teams are trending. So with a team like Duke - who has made a dramatic improvement in defense (and rebounding) in recent weeks the overall numbers are indicative of current performance.

    For example, I'm pretty sure you feel that 21 next to the Heels' name makes them a better defensive team than Duke. But if you look at common opponents in recent weeks you see -

    (Opponent - ORtg vs. Duke - ORtg vs. UNC)
    Wake - 100 - 94.8 (Duke win, UNC loss)
    Miami - 79.3 - 94 (Duke win, UNC loss)
    Syracuse - 130 - 93.4 (Duke loss, UNC loss)
    Virginia - 106.6 - 116.9 (Duke win, UNC loss)
    NCSU - 83.3 - 88.6 (Duke and UNC wins)

    So in the 5 common opponents both teams have played since Duke faced Clemson the Duke defense has performed better than UNC's in 4 of them. Duke's overall defensive numbers are hurt by their poor performances in the earlier part of the season. But clearly from the recent play there's been a lot of improvement.

  • KT donated a coloring book to ke Feb 8, 11:02 a.m.
    Towel Boy

    Dook defense 93rd. Ask the Broncos about all offense and no defense.

    — Posted by dooksucks4

    So now you have gone from kenpom to just D huh.

    Sad, smh. :)

    — Posted by heelraiser1

    You have to look at everything. Sadly, Dookies don't want to look at defensive stats.

    — Posted by dooksucks4

    Sure, let's look at everything. What is Dukes kenpom now and what is UNCheats?

    Why are you... View More

    — Posted by heelraiser1

    I'm not sure why he changed it up either. In his opening post, he was ONLY talking about the complete ranking. Why would somebody flip-flop like that?

  • dooksucks4 Feb 8, 9:24 a.m.
    Towel Boy

    This is why markie's only concerned with defense:

    http://www.newsobserver.com/2014/02/07/3599709/d... View More

    — Posted by 903 Hail Providence

    Having to talk about offense because your defense is so pathetic. We have seen this tape before, it usually leads to an early exit.

    :-)

  • dooksucks4 Feb 8, 9:24 a.m.
    Towel Boy

    Dook defense 93rd. Ask the Broncos about all offense and no defense.

    — Posted by dooksucks4

    So now you have gone from kenpom to just D huh.

    Sad, smh. :)

    — Posted by heelraiser1

    You have to look at everything. Sadly, Dookies don't want to look at defensive stats.

  • heelraiser1 Feb 7, 5:19 p.m.
    Towel Boy

    This is why markie's only concerned with defense:

    http://www.newsobserver.com/2014/02/07/3599709/d... View More

    — Posted by 903 Hail Providence

    Slap.

  • 903 Hail Providence Feb 7, 4:39 p.m.
    Veteran

    This is why markie's only concerned with defense:

    http://www.newsobserver.com/2014/02/07/3599709/duke-gets-balanced-scoring-from.html

    Earlier this week, Duke took over the top of Ken Pomeroy’s adjusted offensive efficiency list, averaging 128.6 points per 100 possessions against an average Division-I offense (or, if you prefer to think of it this way, the Blue Devils would average 1.286 points per possession against the average D-I defense).

    Duke shoots well, especially from 3-point range. The Blue Devils’ 41.6 shooting percentage from 3-point range ranks fourth nationally, behind just Creighton (which slipped to No. 2 in adjusted offensive efficiency rankings) Rider and Utah State.

    The Blue Devils’s 3-point production is fairly balanced— Andre Dawkins, who has made a team-high 55 3s, accounts for 24.9 percent of Duke’s total made 3s. For comparison’s sake, North Carolina’s Marcus Paige accounts for 57.6 percent of the Tar Heels’ made 3s and Syracuse’s Trevor Cooney accounts for 57.1 percent of the Orange’s 3s.

  • KT donated a coloring book to ke Feb 7, 4:32 p.m.
    Towel Boy

    Dook defense 93rd. Ask the Broncos about all offense and no defense.

    — Posted by dooksucks4

    So first you were all about the kenpom rankings. Kept singing them on high. Now it's just the individual pieces of the kenpom that you praise. What will you go to next? The individual + and - signs in his formulas?

  • heelraiser1 Feb 7, 4:32 p.m.
    Towel Boy

    Dook defense 93rd. Ask the Broncos about all offense and no defense.

    — Posted by dooksucks4

    So now you have gone from kenpom to just D huh.

    Sad, smh. :)

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