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  • ABCers burning jerseys Dec 6, 2013
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    He waste 2 years of his college career at Duke, so did Pumlee, and looks like Rasheed Sulaimon is next on the list of players to be screwed by K.

  • Ken D. Dec 6, 2013
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    You seem confused about this redshirt issue. Murphy was redshirted two years ago, after he suffered a bad concussion in practice before the start of the season. He was already younger than your typical freshman, because he skipped his senior year of high school to come to Duke. He would have missed most, if not all of that season anyway, due to his injury, and likely wouldn't have played much if he did return.

    The question isn't why was he redshirted. The question is why wouldn't he have been redshirted under those circumstances? Duke only brought in two recruits the following year, and neither of them had signed an LOI at the time Murphy was redshirted.

    I think that if you want to think ill of Coach K, it may have more to do with your team affiliation than with any objective facts.

  • ABCers burning jerseys Dec 6, 2013
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    I would think that most players want to play the game. Murphy was a highly ranked recruit. Why would he be red shirted if someone hadn't promised him more playing time last year. He hasn't played but 33 minutes. Why would K red shirt any player when he knows he has so much talent coming in. The players that were redshirted have gotten the short end of the stick as will some who are on the duke team. One of those will be Semi Ojeleye. Look to see if he isn't redshirted for next season.

  • Ken D. Dec 6, 2013
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    Just wondering - how does referring to Coach Williams as "Huckleberry" and UNC fans as "Tarholes" make you an "unbiased acc fan"?

  • unbiasedaccfan Dec 6, 2013
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    To NCheatStateULosers - Redshirting someone doesn't "take away' a year of eligibility. I assume Murphy is fairly intelligent - after all he went to Duke - do you not think he could see who was being recruited and evaluate how much he would play? He did and that's why he's leaving. Making statements that you know or don't know that a coach was honest or dishonest with a kid is axxinine and only wishful thinking. If Murphy says he was lied to or mislead then that is one thing, but I doubt that is the case. How about Huckleberry talking Macadoo out of going 7th in the draft two years ago and staying in school. Now he probably won't get drafted since he can't shoot it in the ocean - Did Huck mislead him? Maybe Huck should tell it like it is. Don't make profound, factual statements about knowing what a coach told a kid unless you were in the room. Once again a TAR HOLE fan that doesn't know what he is talking about and produces "unfacts" to support his fantasy.

  • msfitz0016 Dec 6, 2013
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    On Murphy sources........ go to goduke.com. Duke has posted it officially

  • Ken D. Dec 6, 2013
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    As I said initially, how do you know what Coach K told Murphy? Murphy used his redshirt two years ago when he skipped his senior year of high school to enroll early at Duke. That was his decision, not K's.

    There are a lot of players who will choose to play at a big time program, knowing they won't see the floor much, because they want to learn the game from a great coach. Maybe the kid had aspirations of becoming a coach himself one day, rather than an NBA player. Unless you have some inside knowledge here, you're just basing your opinion on pure guesswork.

  • ABCers burning jerseys Dec 6, 2013
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    I disagree. When you're dealing with a young kid's future, you tell him like it is. Just go to him and tell him, that you are recruiting better players and probably he won't be playing, and if he wants to play, he better transfer. You don't redshirt him and take away a year of eligibility.

  • ooksucks lol Dec 6, 2013
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    With the incoming class, do you blame him? Better to play one year for someone than to not play at all.

  • Ken D. Dec 6, 2013
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    K should have told him that them that they have little or no chance of playing

    Were you there for all the conversations between K and these players? How do you know what he told them or didn't tell them? They knew before the season started who they would be competing against for playing time. Murphy could have transferred at the end of last season, but all it would have gained him was a chance to play in somebody else's non-conference games next fall. Maybe he thought there was a chance Duke wouldn't have a successful recruiting year, and that it was worth the gamble to stick around to find out.

    In any case, I don't think you can blame K for this situation.

  • ABCers burning jerseys Dec 6, 2013
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    Were you there for the conversation? Let's see Murphy comes plays his freshman year, bails duke out of a few games but mostly rides the pine, this year there's no chance to play because K has recruited the best talent in the country. Now Murphy has gotten to a critical point. He has two years of eligibility used up with no chance of playing at Duke. The same for Plumlee. Those two could play some where with a chance of improving their chance to improve and play basketball after college. K should have told him that them that they have little or no chance of playing at for their best interest they should transfer to some school where they could play. You'll see they same thing happen to Semi. Do you really think K thought about the best interest of these players or what was in the best interest of himself?

  • bradford1959 Dec 6, 2013
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    Suliamon can play but talk is cheap takes money to ride the train.He has shown in parts of games what he can do.Its up to him on playing time.You do not get minutes no where based on your name.Look at me I am a Mickey D's all american.So, I am just like an ole Mizzou mule show me.Saliamon Duke needs you show up and play.
    Go Duke

  • Leave it to Beaver Reruns Dec 6, 2013
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    poor thing hasn't a clue what he is talking about. Murphy was the one who mentioned redshirting to Collins a few years ago. It was his decision and not K's.

  • bradford1959 Dec 6, 2013
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    He will be able to play next year in Jan.2015 I wish him well.No Duke transfer has ever left and become a super star.You know in your heart if you are better than the ones on the floor.He should stay at Duke get his degree and use it in life.He needs to listen and listen good(NBA he will not make.)Good luck Alex I wish all Duke transfers well thank you for your time at Duke.

  • Tizu Dec 6, 2013
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    No. They don't...could do without Sualaimon, too, really, but I'd had to see that good of a player transfer out due to his own self righteousness...it's obvious that Coach K is having none of it.

    Be a man, Sheed and do what you need to do and help your team...quit being a brat!

  • Toddler10-21 Dec 6, 2013
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    Ok, and duke really needs him?

  • Tizu Dec 6, 2013
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    Someone mentioned Northwestern, I don't think that's a bad idea, but I'm not sure he'll go that route. I think he wants to go to Florida...but I don't think there's room for him there...time will tell.

  • DeanWins Dec 6, 2013
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    Like he told Nolan Smiff?

    Poor Nolan. Seemed like a good guy.

  • modukev4 Dec 5, 2013
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    Obviously coach K would have been wise to to tell Jabari "I'm sorry Mr. Parker, I know you would love to play for us but you'll have to go elsewhere to school, you see, we have this guy named Murphy so we don't have room for you".

  • ABCers burning jerseys Dec 5, 2013
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    Red shirted players? Who would that have been? Players are going to see the lies that K is promising them. Good for us.

  • 903 Hook em banned Dec 5, 2013
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    like roy hasn't had any players transfer away from his team lately...

  • ABCers burning jerseys Dec 5, 2013
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    With K red shirting him, this really hurt Murphy. Why wasn't K honest with him?

  • Ken D. Dec 5, 2013
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    Even if he leaves at the end of this semester, I believe he is charged with a full year for eligibility purposes. He already used his redshirt for his freshman year of 2011-12. That means after sitting out a year at Florida, he should have two seasons of eligibility left.

    Since he has to use all his eligibility by the Spring semester of 2016 (every athlete has a five year window to compete) he could play starting in January of 2015, and play the entire 2015-16 season). If he waited until after this entire season to transfer, he would only get to play one more year.

  • kato_karma3.0 Dec 5, 2013
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    ...seems there were a handful of homers on here claiming that getting a precious dook degree was the prime motivator for Kiwi's recruits coming to durm.

  • larrys080 Aggies Dec 5, 2013
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    Suliamon is only hurting himself. K can recruit with the best and he is getting every top player right now. If he wants to act spoiled then K will just replace him with another top player.......as he should!

  • seedofdoubt Dec 5, 2013
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    Wonder if Murphy would consider Northwestern. Collins could him. Not saying he's leaving.

  • 4DukeTillDeath Dec 5, 2013
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    As for Sheed, he has all the talent in the world to be good. Besides from the Davidson game, he has not looked good at all this year. At times this season he has looked scared to shoot and went through a 5 game span were he only took a total of 20 shots. I understand Parker and Hood are gonna shoot a lot but Sheed is passing up wide open looks often and playing poor defense. Matt Jones is stealing his minutes because he plays better defense. Lets not talk about the ridiculous drive to the lanes towards the end of the Zona game when it was 3 on 1. He averaged nearly 30 minutes a game last year even with Curry at SG and almost 12 points a game while playing decent defense. You think K wouldn't love to start this guy over Thornton?

  • Leave it to Beaver Reruns Dec 5, 2013
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    yeah, his situation was not going to get any better with Winslow's arrival.

  • 4DukeTillDeath Dec 5, 2013
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    Yep, Murphy leaving is not a rumor. Winslow coming to Duke was probably the nail in the coffin.

  • Leave it to Beaver Reruns Dec 5, 2013
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    A buddy of mine (works at Duke) just sent me a text saying the announcement will come next week after finals. Apparently he is no longer doing anything with the team.

  • Leave it to Beaver Reruns Dec 5, 2013
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    it's a little different with Sheed. His lack of time on the court rests strictly with him not showing the work he did last year. If he wants to be in the league anytime soon, it would be a bad move to transfer. Duke knows the talent they have with him, they just want him to show them he is all in with what they are trying to do.

  • Tizu Dec 5, 2013
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    He's being a spoiled brat. As Tyler Thornton said "he needs to man up and take care of his business" and get back out on the court...Duke needs him to go deep this year.

  • sportznutV2.1 Dec 5, 2013
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    Suliamon family is not happy - he isn't getting much playing time either....word is he is gone also IF playing time doesn't increase

  • Tizu Dec 5, 2013
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    This would surprise me as well as there's really not a spot for him there either and I think Donovan let that ship sail long ago. Guess we will see, today is the deadline to transfer, isn't it?

  • Tizu Dec 5, 2013
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    Agreed. He had his chance, not everyone is "Duke" material...meaning the pressures and focus to be the best you can all the time or take a seat, may be too much for some folks.

  • Leave it to Beaver Reruns Dec 5, 2013
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    There is really just not a spot for him.

    as far as when it is worth it to him to transfer, you have to realize that he has been in school for 8 semesters/sessions. He could be really close to graduating, so a transfer would make more sense if he is looking at grad school and playing time.

    I really liked the kid, but he just never seemed to break out at Duke, and regardless of what the haters think, K gave him chances to do so.

  • 903 Hook em banned Dec 5, 2013
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    if he transfers now, he'll only be losing next fall. (as it's a given, that his playing time the rest of this season would have been the same as last season = zero)...

    can't really blame either him or coach k. it's not like coach k knew he would end up getting every recruit he wanted over the couple years after murphy chose to come to duke..

  • Tizu Dec 5, 2013
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    I checked social media and other news sources...there are rumors (like there were last year), but nothing solid. If he goes, he goes. He hasn't done much for Duke anyway...defensive liability, streaky at best. If he can get more playing time somewhere else, go for it, but have fun not playing again until your senior year...to me, it's not worth it to transfer if you're a sophomore...but that's just me.

  • Leave it to Beaver Reruns Dec 5, 2013
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    It's all over the place. I have heard the rumblings online and from people in the know for a few days now. I expect Duke to make an announcement very soon. I wonder if they wait until finals are done, but it is coming.

  • Tizu Dec 5, 2013
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    Source(s)?

  • 903 Hook em banned Dec 5, 2013
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    i forgot murphy was on the team...

  • Leave it to Beaver Reruns Dec 5, 2013
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    Murphy is heading to Florida. Sheed is not going anywhere.

  • sportznutV2.1 Dec 5, 2013
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    Anyone

  • sportznutV2.1 Dec 5, 2013
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    Any hear for sure?

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