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  • tcoutouzis Nov 17, 7:52 p.m.
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    The schedule ACC teams comment was a joke, but with a touch of truth to it. If we are going to... View More

    — Posted by lazydawg58

    We need to schedule all bottom feeder BCS schools. Let's put South Florida, Boston College, Indiana and Kansas on the schedule. Sadly I am not sure if we would win those games.

    In all sincerity I like playing good BCS teams as we can only get better by playing competition that is above us. I would rather play Wake, Duke, NCSU and UNC every year because it will save immensely on our travel expenditures and we can put the money we save to other areas that it is needed.

  • hovis Nov 17, 5:05 p.m.
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    The schedule ACC teams comment was a joke, but with a touch of truth to it. If we are going to... View More

    — Posted by lazydawg58

    True, that is one of the weakest conferences in the land. But the record in the recent history is ... Terrible. Like with a zero in the win column. Cusa has to improve their play, not just their schedule.

  • lazydawg58 Nov 17, 3:00 p.m.
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    The schedule ACC teams comment was a joke, but with a touch of truth to it. If we are going to schedule BCS schools our chances of winning are a lot greater against ACC schools than they are against SEC or any of the other conferences.

  • Ken D. Nov 17, 12:45 p.m.
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    Well, they can certainly afford to be generous. Whereas the current BCS pie is worth about $150MM per year, the amount being bandied about for the the new games (currently 6 in total, including the 2 semis and the final) is in the neighborhood of $500MM. You can get a lot of nice slices out of that pie.

  • cooperitis Nov 17, 12:08 p.m.
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    That's correct "hovis" -- the ECU guy was mainly speaking about the future, not... View More

    — Posted by cooperitis

    I can see how that could be true. However, there would still need to be a serious improvement in... View More

    — Posted by hovis

    The way things shape up now, the only way a team from one of those five conferences gets invited... View More

    — Posted by Ken D.


    That would be true Ken for the Top 4 BCS Bowls --which will then be the 4 "playoff system" bowls towards the national championship. And i don't ever see ECU being a part of that regardless of being undefeated against lower level competition.

    However, as i understand it from what I have seen and read -- the remaining 2 other BCS-type bowl games will "guarentee" at least one team from those 5 conferences beginning in 2014 that is the highest ranked team amoungst them to play in one of those two extra BCS-type $ bowl games. There is no stipulation on that ranking or a certain number to qualify. The example given was: if Marshall was ranked 37th and that was somehow the highest ranking amoung all teams from those 5 conferences -- Marshall would go to that bowl game. Now, that situation is highly unlikely, but explains how it will work at that time in 2014. And you're correct in thinking that whoever will be the highest ranked team will most likely need to be undfeated or with one loss at the most. But, it will at least be possible for ECU or any other team from those 5 small conferences to get a slice of "the big pie". That's why the BCS commissioners put that into the newly reformed BCS bowl system to try and be fair to "the little guy" to have a share of the big $.

  • Ken D. Nov 17, 11:32 a.m.
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    That's correct "hovis" -- the ECU guy was mainly speaking about the future, not... View More

    — Posted by cooperitis

    I can see how that could be true. However, there would still need to be a serious improvement in... View More

    — Posted by hovis

    The way things shape up now, the only way a team from one of those five conferences gets invited to a major bowl is to go undefeated. One loss, even to a very good team, will be enough to keep you out.

  • hovis Nov 17, 7:12 a.m.
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    That's correct "hovis" -- the ECU guy was mainly speaking about the future, not... View More

    — Posted by cooperitis

    I can see how that could be true. However, there would still need to be a serious improvement in team talent within CUSAor we will just be posting on threads about how "they were robbed" or something like that. For a cusa team to be selected they would have needed to post at least some wins of middling quality against someone. I do hope that ECU can do all this though.

  • cooperitis Nov 17, 12:17 a.m.
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    That's correct "hovis" -- the ECU guy was mainly speaking about the future, not currently. The Big East is losing their BCS statis and will be on the same playing level as those other conferences as far as selecting (one) highest ranked team from those 5 conferences to play in one of the 6 BCS-type bowl games starting in 2014. Therefore at that time, ECU would just need to be the highest ranked team amoung those 5 conferences to be invited to the "big $ bowl game". And that ECU would have a much better chance of doing that within CUSA versus playing in the Big East. However, before that can happen, ECU will still have to win some of their "big boy" out of conference games. Maybe even with Ruff and his staff -- we can start to build towards that level of competition within the next couple of years. I can only hope so.

  • hovis Nov 16, 10:48 p.m.
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    They may want to pick on somebody else. In the last three years they are only 1-5 against ACC... View More

    — Posted by Ken D.

    Who should they play in your opinion?

    — Posted by hovis

    Well, I was being facetious with my last comment, but only a little. I think they should try to... View More

    — Posted by Ken D.

    I agree that total wins might be most impressive to bowl scouts and can be more attainable by... View More

    — Posted by cooperitis

    cusa? Not even close to the big east this year. As a conference they have had a few quality wins. So has the MTN west. I think in the future this could be true if the bad teams in the big east get worse because certain teams rise to the top of the other conferences and thus recruit on the same level with them. Does he mean just because they are going to lose their bcs affiliation? That has not happened yet but is sure to make a difference when it does. But considered on the same level right now? Umm...no. Not to anyone with the Internet that can look up quality conference wins and losses. That guy is nuts if he means currently.
    I agree that until ECU is more competitive they can build a better program in their current conference than they could in the big east or otherwise.

  • cooperitis Nov 16, 10:18 p.m.
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    Well ECU hasn't faired well in their OOC games against the BCS conferences. I think what the... View More

    — Posted by lazydawg58

    They may want to pick on somebody else. In the last three years they are only 1-5 against ACC... View More

    — Posted by Ken D.

    Who should they play in your opinion?

    — Posted by hovis

    Well, I was being facetious with my last comment, but only a little. I think they should try to... View More

    — Posted by Ken D.

    I agree that total wins might be most impressive to bowl scouts and can be more attainable by scheduling FCS schools outside the conference. ACC schools could possibly help in recruiting -- only if we could win some of those games.

    However, to get to the next level of respectability, we're going to have to play some games with the "big boys". But that's only going to help us if we can compete and actually win some of them. I just don't think we're capible of that right now and may never get to that level with Ruff and current staff. So, maybe winning against our "cream puff" conference and lesser schools outside CUSA may be our best bet for now and or near future.

    There was some guy (?) from ECU athletics on "The Logan Zone" last night from Greenville that had a certain spin on things. He stated that ECU was in much better shape now in CUSA than they would be in the Big East. That's because the BIg East is now considered on the same level as CUSA, Sunbelt, Mnt West and MAC. And ECU can certainly obtain more wins in CUSA than they could possibly in the Big East. I guess that kind of goes along with what we're talking about here. Total number of wins out weighs quality losses.

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Scoreboard
Local
Final
NCCU 65
EILL 40
 
Final
NCSU 60
BSU 54
 
3rd
PIT 2
CAR 3
 
4th
CHA 99
GSW 104
 
2nd
UF 33
UNC 43
 
1st
TULSA 14
ECU 14
 
Final
BOS 102
CHI 109
4th
CHA 99
GSW 104
 
3rd
TOR 52
DAL 62
 
4th
DET 69
MIL 77
 
4th
ATL 71
NOP 56
 
Half
HOU 44
LAC 56
 
Half
OKC 59
NYK 33
 
Half
IND 47
ORL 45
 
2nd
SAN 41
SAC 35
 
1st
DEN 10
PHO 7
 
10:00pm Tonight
POR
MEM
10:30pm Tonight
LAL
MIN
Final
WMICH 21
NILL 31
Final
SMU 9
HOU 35
Final
IOWA 34
NEB 37
Final
SFLA 0
UCF 16
Final
MARS 66
WKENT 67
Final
KSU 27
AKR 24
Final
BGU 24
BST 41
Final
UMASS 21
BUF 41
Final
EMICH 16
TOL 52
Final
MIZZ 21
ARK 14
Final
SALABAMA 40
NAVY 42
Final
ARZ 42
ARST 35
Final
AFA 27
COLST 24
Final
UCLA 10
STAN 31
2nd
VT 10
UVA 6
 
1st
TULSA 14
ECU 14
 
Final
NCCU 65
EILL 40
 
Final
KU 82
TENN 67
Final
TEXAM 87
NO 65
 
Final
NCAT 57
RAD 65
 
Final
GEOR 58
BUT 64
Final
BRO 81
PVU 71
Final
RIU 66
SCU 44
Final
NARZ 70
SOUTH 63
Final
DART 68
MAST 67
Final
WRST 59
FIU 61
Final
XAV 73
UTEP 77
Final
OSU 73
JMU 56
Final
TXSOU 71
LAM 59
 
Final
TAMCC 75
MVSU 66
 
Final
AKAN 51
MIZST 55
Final
BUCK 80
PSU 88
 
Final
PROV 72
YALE 66
Final
UGA 62
MINN 66
Final
WISC 69
OKLA 56
Final
Terriers 70
NORST 72
 
Final
PEAY 62
STEPH 83
Final
FSU 58
CSOU 47
 
Final
VALPO 66
DRAK 46
Final
CIN 69
MTST 51
Final
SDU 75
PRIN 65
Final
WASU 76
RICE 74
 
Final
CSFU 64
USCU 79
 
Final
GT 61
RIDE 54
 
Final
TXPA 79
ALAST 91
 
Final
NCSU 60
BSU 54
 
Final
TCU 57
BRAD 49
 
Final
WAKE 65
DELST 72
 
Final
HART 83
EMERSON 50
 
Final
STJ 66
GONZ 73
 
Final
CLEM 62
HIGH 59
 
Final
SYR 72
HC 48
 
Final
MD 61
MON 56
 
Final
JVST 74
SAV 71
 
Final
MIAMI 87
SALA 75
 
Final
RUTG 68
VANDY 65
 
2nd
PETE 55
TENST 54
 
2nd
MARS 32
CLST 43
 
2nd
JST 38
HOF 47
 
2nd
INDST 34
MEM 48
 
2nd
UF 33
UNC 43
 
2nd
LATU 37
SAMF 32
 
2nd
TULA 58
SELA 49
 
2nd
NEB 54
TENNM 44
 
Half
MISS 31
CREI 37
 
Half
PORT 30
MURST 29
 
1st
MARQ 9
MSU 4
 
1st
ARK 14
UNT 11
 
1st
NCOL 17
STET 9
 
1st
IND 11
UNCG 6
 
1st
SJST 5
WMICH 15
 
1st
MNTST 11
TXARL 5
 
9:30pm Tonight
UVA
LAS
9:30pm Tonight
STLU
MSST
9:30pm Tonight
COLST
PAC
10:00pm Tonight
UTAH
NDAK
10:30pm Tonight
ILL
BAY
10:30pm Tonight
UAB
UCLA
11:30pm Tonight
WASH
LBSU
11:59pm Tonight
UCSB
MERC
Final
PHI 0
NYR 3
Final
ANA 1
CHI 4
Final
WAS 5
NYI 2
3rd
PIT 2
CAR 3
 
3rd
NJD 4
DET 3
 
2nd
BUF 1
MON 0
 
3rd
CLB 0
VAN 2
 
3rd
BOS 1
WIN 1
 
2nd Intermission
FLA 1
OTT 2
 
2nd
STL 1
EDM 1
 
1st Intermission
DAL 0
MIN 2