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  • Pack pride lead investigator Nov 15, 10:28 p.m.
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    Seems wise to me. Can't argue with any of that.

  • Ken D. Nov 15, 6:23 p.m.
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    Well ECU hasn't faired well in their OOC games against the BCS conferences. I think what the... View More

    — Posted by lazydawg58

    They may want to pick on somebody else. In the last three years they are only 1-5 against ACC... View More

    — Posted by Ken D.

    Who should they play in your opinion?

    — Posted by hovis

    Well, I was being facetious with my last comment, but only a little. I think they should try to schedule ACC teams, but for geographic reasons, not because it will pad their won-loss record. I also think they should do what most other FBS teams do and include a regional FCS team on their schedule. App State makes sense, but so do Richmond and William & Mary.

    There is nothing ECU can do out of conference that will make their overall schedule impressive enough to make any difference in what type of bowl they may get invited to. So you might as well at least schedule winnable games that have local fan interest. I think they should try to schedule all four NC teams from the ACC at least once every four years. They don't need to be scheduling teams like West Virginia, because at the end of the day, if you are in C-USA, bowls will care more about how many games you won than who you played.

  • hovis Nov 15, 4:41 p.m.
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    Well ECU hasn't faired well in their OOC games against the BCS conferences. I think what the... View More

    — Posted by lazydawg58

    They may want to pick on somebody else. In the last three years they are only 1-5 against ACC... View More

    — Posted by Ken D.

    Who should they play in your opinion?

  • Ken D. Nov 15, 2:52 p.m.
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    Well ECU hasn't faired well in their OOC games against the BCS conferences. I think what the... View More

    — Posted by lazydawg58

    They may want to pick on somebody else. In the last three years they are only 1-5 against ACC teams. That's the only thing keeping the ACC's non-conference record respectable.

  • lazydawg58 Nov 14, 9:30 p.m.
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    Well ECU hasn't faired well in their OOC games against the BCS conferences. I think what the pirates need to do is try to schedule as many games as they can aginst ACC teams. I think if they keep plugging away they might be able to do better than 500 against them. :)

  • Hokies94 Nov 13, 4:02 p.m.
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    I have to hand it ECU. They have done the job in their Conference.

  • TsKaMF Nov 12, 7:25 p.m.
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    The big least or cusa has never been "tough". ezwho?

  • Ken D. Nov 12, 7:00 p.m.
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    With two games left it is entirely possible the the Pirates could end up 8-4 or 7-5. I don't... View More

    — Posted by lazydawg58

    I agree with you lazydawg. I am not trying to be negative, but realistic.

    With the exception of... View More

    — Posted by tcoutouzis

    I'll give you Logan. But Holtz didn't impress me that much. He never lost fewer than 5 games in any season at ECU. He had the advantage of being compared most immediately with the Thompson era. Prior to 2005, when the ACC's raid of the Big East led to that league's raid on C-USA (which is apparently still going on) ECU played in a tougher conference. The league has been in decline ever since, and ECU is going down with it. I'm not sure any coach can overcome that.

  • cooperitis Nov 12, 5:54 p.m.
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    I just saw this afternoon from watching "College Football Live" that there will be a whole new BCS Bowl system in place starting with the 2014 season. It includes 6 total bowls -- the 4 "playoff" bowls towards the national championship, but also includes 2 additional BCS-type or major $ bowls to be played New Year's eve or day. The big news is that the two additional bowls WILL INCLUDE (one team)the highest ranked team from the 5 smaller tier conferences: CUSA, Sunbelt, BIg East, MAC and one other ? This is huge for the "little guy" conferences and allows one team for sure to be apart of the "big boy" bowl and $ without the current stipulations and exclusions. Therefore, I see it even more important in the near future for ECU to be able to have a respectable and possibly ranked football program.

    It goes back to my previous thread and what "tcoutouzis" said about just being mediocre. I can't speak for all ECU fans but personally, I have much higher aspirations and expectations for ECU football than to be just satisfied with a winning record against bad CUSA (Division I want-a-bees) teams and possibly a CUSA Championship. And it's going to take ECU winning some of the "big boy" games and our bowl games to get us to that next level of respectability. From what I've seen the last 3 years with Ruff -- I'm just not convinced we are headed in that direction. However, winning out this season and WINNING our bowl game against a decent team will be a good start in the right direction.

  • tcoutouzis Nov 12, 4:36 p.m.
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    With two games left it is entirely possible the the Pirates could end up 8-4 or 7-5. I don't... View More

    — Posted by lazydawg58

    I agree with you lazydawg. I am not trying to be negative, but realistic.

    With the exception of App St. who I don't count because they don't play division one football and have 25 less scholarships then we do:

    The teams we have beaten this year are 11-39. No team has a winning record. The closest team would be Houston at 4-6.

    Our two remaining teams have a combined 6-14 record as both have losing records. You would think that we would win these, but I have seen us blow it before.

    Here is my problem with the 8-4 record. It is not a reflection of how good we really are. We have had some good teams that went 8-4 or 7-5 under Logan and Skip. The thing is we were competitive with the good teams even if we lost. You would get an occasional blow out, but that was fairly rare. We are getting raked over the coals by teams that are .500 or better. They aren't just beating us, they are destroying us. I need to look back, but I think we have been blown out twice as much in these 3 years under Ruff than the 10 years combined we had under Logan. I count dozens of missed tackles a game, many of them arm tackles. I see no fundamentals or discipline in our players, which is a reflection on our coaching. Our secondary is the worst that I have seen since John Thompson.

    I agree with Cooper, we have regressed from Logan and Holtz. We have the talent in place, just not a good staff. Although I love Connors and Doll and hope if there is a change that those guys can stay.

    We are just mediocre at best and it is hard to celebrate an 8-4 season when all we did is beat a bunch of cream puffs. This is the easiest schedule I remember ever in ECU history. I actually think we could have easily finished the season at 11-1 if we had a good staff. Ruff is a good man, but being a good man is only part of the equation. He is missing the strategic half as a head coach.

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