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  • tcoutouzis Nov 17, 7:52 p.m.
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    The schedule ACC teams comment was a joke, but with a touch of truth to it. If we are going to... View More

    — Posted by lazydawg58

    We need to schedule all bottom feeder BCS schools. Let's put South Florida, Boston College, Indiana and Kansas on the schedule. Sadly I am not sure if we would win those games.

    In all sincerity I like playing good BCS teams as we can only get better by playing competition that is above us. I would rather play Wake, Duke, NCSU and UNC every year because it will save immensely on our travel expenditures and we can put the money we save to other areas that it is needed.

  • hovis Nov 17, 5:05 p.m.
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    The schedule ACC teams comment was a joke, but with a touch of truth to it. If we are going to... View More

    — Posted by lazydawg58

    True, that is one of the weakest conferences in the land. But the record in the recent history is ... Terrible. Like with a zero in the win column. Cusa has to improve their play, not just their schedule.

  • lazydawg58 Nov 17, 3:00 p.m.
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    The schedule ACC teams comment was a joke, but with a touch of truth to it. If we are going to schedule BCS schools our chances of winning are a lot greater against ACC schools than they are against SEC or any of the other conferences.

  • Ken D. Nov 17, 12:45 p.m.
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    Well, they can certainly afford to be generous. Whereas the current BCS pie is worth about $150MM per year, the amount being bandied about for the the new games (currently 6 in total, including the 2 semis and the final) is in the neighborhood of $500MM. You can get a lot of nice slices out of that pie.

  • cooperitis Nov 17, 12:08 p.m.
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    That's correct "hovis" -- the ECU guy was mainly speaking about the future, not... View More

    — Posted by cooperitis

    I can see how that could be true. However, there would still need to be a serious improvement in... View More

    — Posted by hovis

    The way things shape up now, the only way a team from one of those five conferences gets invited... View More

    — Posted by Ken D.


    That would be true Ken for the Top 4 BCS Bowls --which will then be the 4 "playoff system" bowls towards the national championship. And i don't ever see ECU being a part of that regardless of being undefeated against lower level competition.

    However, as i understand it from what I have seen and read -- the remaining 2 other BCS-type bowl games will "guarentee" at least one team from those 5 conferences beginning in 2014 that is the highest ranked team amoungst them to play in one of those two extra BCS-type $ bowl games. There is no stipulation on that ranking or a certain number to qualify. The example given was: if Marshall was ranked 37th and that was somehow the highest ranking amoung all teams from those 5 conferences -- Marshall would go to that bowl game. Now, that situation is highly unlikely, but explains how it will work at that time in 2014. And you're correct in thinking that whoever will be the highest ranked team will most likely need to be undfeated or with one loss at the most. But, it will at least be possible for ECU or any other team from those 5 small conferences to get a slice of "the big pie". That's why the BCS commissioners put that into the newly reformed BCS bowl system to try and be fair to "the little guy" to have a share of the big $.

  • Ken D. Nov 17, 11:32 a.m.
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    That's correct "hovis" -- the ECU guy was mainly speaking about the future, not... View More

    — Posted by cooperitis

    I can see how that could be true. However, there would still need to be a serious improvement in... View More

    — Posted by hovis

    The way things shape up now, the only way a team from one of those five conferences gets invited to a major bowl is to go undefeated. One loss, even to a very good team, will be enough to keep you out.

  • hovis Nov 17, 7:12 a.m.
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    That's correct "hovis" -- the ECU guy was mainly speaking about the future, not... View More

    — Posted by cooperitis

    I can see how that could be true. However, there would still need to be a serious improvement in team talent within CUSAor we will just be posting on threads about how "they were robbed" or something like that. For a cusa team to be selected they would have needed to post at least some wins of middling quality against someone. I do hope that ECU can do all this though.

  • cooperitis Nov 17, 12:17 a.m.
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    That's correct "hovis" -- the ECU guy was mainly speaking about the future, not currently. The Big East is losing their BCS statis and will be on the same playing level as those other conferences as far as selecting (one) highest ranked team from those 5 conferences to play in one of the 6 BCS-type bowl games starting in 2014. Therefore at that time, ECU would just need to be the highest ranked team amoung those 5 conferences to be invited to the "big $ bowl game". And that ECU would have a much better chance of doing that within CUSA versus playing in the Big East. However, before that can happen, ECU will still have to win some of their "big boy" out of conference games. Maybe even with Ruff and his staff -- we can start to build towards that level of competition within the next couple of years. I can only hope so.

  • hovis Nov 16, 10:48 p.m.
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    They may want to pick on somebody else. In the last three years they are only 1-5 against ACC... View More

    — Posted by Ken D.

    Who should they play in your opinion?

    — Posted by hovis

    Well, I was being facetious with my last comment, but only a little. I think they should try to... View More

    — Posted by Ken D.

    I agree that total wins might be most impressive to bowl scouts and can be more attainable by... View More

    — Posted by cooperitis

    cusa? Not even close to the big east this year. As a conference they have had a few quality wins. So has the MTN west. I think in the future this could be true if the bad teams in the big east get worse because certain teams rise to the top of the other conferences and thus recruit on the same level with them. Does he mean just because they are going to lose their bcs affiliation? That has not happened yet but is sure to make a difference when it does. But considered on the same level right now? Umm...no. Not to anyone with the Internet that can look up quality conference wins and losses. That guy is nuts if he means currently.
    I agree that until ECU is more competitive they can build a better program in their current conference than they could in the big east or otherwise.

  • cooperitis Nov 16, 10:18 p.m.
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    Well ECU hasn't faired well in their OOC games against the BCS conferences. I think what the... View More

    — Posted by lazydawg58

    They may want to pick on somebody else. In the last three years they are only 1-5 against ACC... View More

    — Posted by Ken D.

    Who should they play in your opinion?

    — Posted by hovis

    Well, I was being facetious with my last comment, but only a little. I think they should try to... View More

    — Posted by Ken D.

    I agree that total wins might be most impressive to bowl scouts and can be more attainable by scheduling FCS schools outside the conference. ACC schools could possibly help in recruiting -- only if we could win some of those games.

    However, to get to the next level of respectability, we're going to have to play some games with the "big boys". But that's only going to help us if we can compete and actually win some of them. I just don't think we're capible of that right now and may never get to that level with Ruff and current staff. So, maybe winning against our "cream puff" conference and lesser schools outside CUSA may be our best bet for now and or near future.

    There was some guy (?) from ECU athletics on "The Logan Zone" last night from Greenville that had a certain spin on things. He stated that ECU was in much better shape now in CUSA than they would be in the Big East. That's because the BIg East is now considered on the same level as CUSA, Sunbelt, Mnt West and MAC. And ECU can certainly obtain more wins in CUSA than they could possibly in the Big East. I guess that kind of goes along with what we're talking about here. Total number of wins out weighs quality losses.

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