So if the Big Ten raids the ACC & Big East?
Ken D. Nov 21, 10:55 a.m.
You're right. Wouldn't it be a hoot if Texas went to the PAC along with Oklahoma, OK State and TCU? That would certainly cool FSU and Clemson's jets.
lazydawg58 Nov 21, 8:54 a.m.
Yes I think it is highly likely that this isn't even close to being over, but I was just throwing out another possibility. Through the years I've come to realize that no matter what seems logical or inevitable there are always forces at work that can very well lead to very different outcomes. If one school doesn't do what seems to us be the most logical, for whatever reason suddenly everything changes. What if Texas and the PAC reopen negotiations and suddenly the Big12 becomes the weak link? Or Louisville and Cinci go as a package to the Big12? Expect the unexpected. :)
hovis Nov 21, 6:42 a.m.
I appreciate your optimism. This may be possible for the short term but here are the major forces behind all this: Conferences gain money by increasing their "footprint" as far as viewership on tv is concerned no matter who they add as long as they have the requisite viewers available.
Right now any team not in the big 10, big 12, or sec gets an enormous pay bump to move to these conferences.
For these two reasons alone it is unlikely that any conference becomes satisfied with their slice of the pie as the moves that they make will increase revenue and the moves that these respective schools make are sure to be to their benefit. I have heard that Boise St. and another team have quietly inquired about re-admittance to the MtnWest as well as BYU seeing what kind of money they could expect if they came in.
I just cannot find a reason why it would slow down now or until the big conferences are satisfied that they have reached the highest amount of profit that they can achieve.
lazydawg58 Nov 20, 10:07 p.m.
Another possibility might be that Boise State and SDSU reconsider and stay in the Mountain, the Big 12 likes their position with only 10 schools to split the pie with and the Big 10 after gaining a presence on the east coast and giving PSU some near neighbors stops. With UCONN (or UofL) and Rutgers leaving and BSU and SDSU not coming the BE survives by adding ECU and ?? and remains the best conference that isn't one of the big five, and the ACC remains a basketball conference that plays football.
hovis Nov 20, 12:25 p.m.
Exactly! Why can't anyone get that on the other threads? It is not how long you are on the plane but who pays for the ticket!
Ken D. Nov 20, 12:23 p.m.
"look at the teams you will play". I've read where people think Maryland is too far away from most B1G Ten opponents. Miami, FSU and GT aren't? I think the only B1G Ten schools that are farther from Maryland than Miami is are Nebraska (by about 150 miles) and Minnesota (by about 50 miles). There will be six B1G Ten teams in the eastern time zone, and maybe more if they go to 16 teams.
The geography is more than compensated for by the extra revenue. This was a no brainer for Maryland and Rutgers.
hovis Nov 20, 12:10 p.m.
I also keep seeing people who have just read headlines saying things like"look at the teams you will play! Maryland will never make money!" Bs. Outside budgetary sources state that extra income solely from the conference payouts would net Maryland nearly 100million EXTRA dollars by 2020. That is why they did it and why everyone else will too.
hovis Nov 20, 11:59 a.m.
That is what I thought too but I did not want to say so because if the junk that people would start filling the thread with. It seems that at least temporarily intelligent issues such as this can be discussed ( for now). In reply to lazy dog, while this seems like a break even or possibly improved situation for the schools left out that could then call themselves the acc that could not be further from the truth. The school in these super conferences will have huge recruiting budgets, vastly superior facilities, greater viewership and exposure, and the list goes on. THEN you will see ESPN and the super conferences team up and demand that players get paid thus increasing the divide and flat out making (in combination w/title9) football flat out unprofitable for the other schools.
Ken D. Nov 20, 11:32 a.m.
If Duke and UNC are split up, I think Duke gets left out entirely. They don't help anybody as far as football is concerned. Wake Forest could suffer the same fate. If those two schools hadn't found a home in the ACC 60 years ago, nobody would be chasing after them today. The Deacons should be quaking in their boots, because they don't have a partner to help them get into the big leagues.
lazydawg58 Nov 20, 11:30 a.m.
If all this happens and the ACC falls apart isn't it logical that the teams left behind will take the brand name ACC and reform? Isn't this what the Southern Conference has done several times over the years? Perhaps the new additions decide to go their own way. So what would the new ACC look like?
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