So if the Big Ten raids the ACC & Big East?
hovis Nov 20, 11:18 a.m.
Miami is in a huge metropolitan area and a large amount of their fanbase is from out of state (northern). I think all of this could shake out in a lot of different directions as far as who goes where but whether it is now or this year I have no doubt that the big three conferences will consume all these schools. I think it is possible that both Duke and Unc go to the same conference but it is probably a shade more likely that they are split up by conferences since the real principle of this thing is expanded coverage for the new conference. But I am certain with the amounts of money at play every school is scurrying to go somewhere if they are wanted. No doubt.
Ken D. Nov 20, 10:49 a.m.
For reasons I don't entirely understand, Miami seems to be something of a media favorite. They deliver TV ratings, and not just in the Miami area. And they would expand the geographical footprint of the SEC more than any other candidate.
lazydawg58 Nov 20, 10:27 a.m.
It seems to me that the most attractive schools for the SEC (from a TV market standpoint) would be NC State and VT. Are Duke and UNC-CH really joined at the hip? I wonder. I would think the Big10 would want UNC-CH and GT. The Big12 takes FSU and Clemson. Aren't the private schools less coveted? That leaves the private schools like Miami, WF, Duke, Syracuse, Boston C. kind of on the outside looking in, along with public schools like UVA and Pitt. This is all very confusing but it seems to me that the bottom line would be if we go to four Super conferences of 16, there will be enough high quality schools to make up the "lesser" conferences that ECU will be in a much better situation conference wise then they are now. More so in terms of geography, rivalries, and level of play.
Ken D. Nov 20, 10:26 a.m.
There are so many possibilities here it's impossible to predict what will happen. As is often the case, what Notre Dame decides to do will ripple across the whole landscape. All ECU can do is sit and wait for the big dogs to sort out their pecking order and then try to make the best deal they can.
By making their move with Maryland and Rutgers, the B1G Ten has decided they are going to drive this bus. They don't have many more good options, and I think they are trying to force Notre Dame's hand. Despite the shabby treatment they have received from the Irish in the past, football is big business, and Notre Dame is good for business. My guess is that the B1G Ten will try to use negotiations with Duke and UNC as leverage to get ND to get on board the bus. If they do, then I think Pitt rounds out the league at 16 teams.
Ken D. Nov 20, 9:44 a.m.
I would not be surprised if UNC and Duke, afraid of getting left out of a major conference, move quickly to seek admission to the B1G Ten, which is now a close second to the ACC academically. If that were to happen, I could see the floodgates opening. That would put State and Wake in danger of getting left out.
There are two spots open in the SEC. They have said they don't want Clemson or FSU. Georgia might not be thrilled to have Tech in their division. But both Miami and Va Tech could be attractive from both a geographic and competitive standpoint.
At this point, I don't see anything stopping FSU and Clemson from jumping to the Big XII, taking them to 12 teams. Would they stop there, which would still leave West Virginia as the "Alaska of the Big XII"? Or would they fill in the geographic gap? Georgia Tech is available, so I think that would be their first choice. Louisville is available, and eager. Notre Dame would get invited, but would probably decline. That leaves two more spots to get to 16. Cincinnati and NC State? Fills in a lot of geography.
tcoutouzis Nov 20, 7:30 a.m.
The ACC will not collapse. The Big East will remain alive. CUSA will probably die as the MWC and Big East raid it.
Let's be real. UConn will get invited to the ACC and Louisville will be picked up by the Big 12. I think that Cincy is out of luck and is stuck. Villanova will have second thoughts about moving up and Navy will probably jump ship.
hovis Nov 20, 6:53 a.m.
GT i doubt would slip through the cracks because of their proximity to Charlotte and the fact that they are in Atlanta but the rest, maybe so. And not that bad, huh? Duke or any other NC team could possibly be left in out the rain too if they are not proactive in where how fast they abandon ship. There are too many schools in NC for all of them to go to these conferences so speed could be an issue.
lazydawg58 Nov 19, 10:22 p.m.
So if/when the ACC and Big East self-destruct we all revert back to what I've been saying/wishing for a while now, compact conferences after the superconferences. So what could it be? Wake Forest, ECU, GT(?), Miami, UCF, USF, UVA(?), UNC-C, Furman, ASU, Georgia Southern, Old Dominion
Ken D. Nov 19, 9:40 p.m.
I said a while back that I doubted they would ever play a down in the Big east. The MWC turned down two other schools, staying at ten, so I believe they thought they would come back.
The current status of the BCS is to have a six site rotation, followed by the championship game. That is to say, instead of the current 10 teams, there will be 12. One of those will be the highest ranked team from outside the five power conferences. That being the case, Boise doesn't need the Big East to get entry to a major bowl, so why not stay close to home? (The other team is San Diego State, by the way).
That would bring the BE down to 9 teams, 7 of which were from C-USA. I wouldn't be at all surprised if SMU, Houston and Memphis had second thoughts as well.
hovis Nov 19, 8:53 p.m.
Just saw where Boise St and whatever that other school is from out that way headed to the big east have reopened negotiations with mtn west to re-enter the conference! (You just can't make this stuff up!)
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