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Big East's non-football members meet, discuss possible breakaway

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  • Ken D. Dec 18, 5:05 p.m.
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    If the plan is to have a 16 team league, with no crossover scheduling in the regular season, what is the point? Why not just separate conferences. But if you have separate conferences which negotiate TV and bowl deals together to improve their leverage and appeal, then why stop at 16? Why not three 8 team leagues that pool their strength?

    Put Boise, SDSU, UNLV and Fresno in the WAC, along with New Mexico, Nevada, Hawaii and San Jose State.

    The Mountain West can have Air Force, Colorado State, Wyoming, Utah State, BYU, SMU, Houston and Tulane.

    The Big East stays as you described it.

    At the end of the regular season, the three conference champions, plus the highest ranked non-champion at large, and play two games, with the winners to advance to a nice bowl game somewhere in the middle of the country. If one of these teams is ranked high enough to break into one of the major bowls, substitute the second place team from their conference for the "semifinal".

    In effect, what you would wind up with would be pretty close to the proposed merger of CUSA and MWC that almost happened several months ago. What you would be adding are the remnants of the Big East. What you would be subtracting are Marshall, Southern Miss, UAB, Rice, Tulsa and UTEP.

    The 24 schools can share all the bowl and TV money equally.

  • tcoutouzis Dec 18, 10:01 a.m.
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    In the 16 team two division conference that TH spoke of, what are the schools that are expected... View More

    — Posted by lazydawg58

    Hey Lazydawg - This was one of the options that is popular and was presented, but I am not for sure that they are going to 16 yet, we will see.

    East - ECU, USF, UC, UConn, UCF, Navy, Memphis, Temple

    West - Boise St., SDSU, Houston, Tulane, SMU, Fresno St, BYU, UNLV

    This has been a suggestion that is very popular amongst the people.

  • tcoutouzis Dec 18, 9:55 a.m.
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    Wow, this really sucks for ECU. The pirates can't catch a break regarding conference alignments.... View More

    — Posted by SpartanDude

    We are going to be okay guys. They are forming a new conference of which we will be part of. The discussions have already begun and they are moving fast.

  • Ken D. Dec 17, 11:42 a.m.
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    Wow, this really sucks for ECU. The pirates can't catch a break regarding conference alignments.... View More

    — Posted by SpartanDude

    We don't know yet whether this will affect ECU much. But I doubt anybody at ECU thought they were "getting into a big time conference". It was quite clear that they were getting back to where they started, which is essentially CUSA. And I expect it was very humbling for some Pirates to discover where they ranked in terms of attractiveness in that league. The Big East took 9 other CUSA schools before agreeing to take ECU, and even then they weren't deemed good enough for anything but football. That's gotta sting.

  • SpartanDude Dec 17, 10:57 a.m.
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    Wow, this really sucks for ECU. The pirates can't catch a break regarding conference alignments. Just when they think they get into a big time conference, that conference is on the verge of disintegrating. I wonder if the remaining BE football schools can cobble together a conference worth anything or if it all goes kaput and they have to find alternatives to the Big East.

  • Ken D. Dec 15, 11:49 a.m.
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    In the 16 team two division conference that TH spoke of, what are the schools that are expected... View More

    — Posted by lazydawg58

    And what are the chances that all of the remaining football schools stay? It's not far fetched to think that the ACC could still take UConn as a sixteenth all sports member and Navy as a football only member.

    As for a 16 team conference in which there are no crossover games in the regular season, what's the point of that? Why not just have two eight team conferences that agree to have their champions meet in a bowl game?

    If you lose UConn and Navy, and if Boise and San Diego back out as expected, you are down to 9 schools: Temple, ECU, Cincinnati, USF, UCF, Memphis, Tulane, Houston and SMU. Why not just leave it at that?

  • lazydawg58 Dec 15, 10:01 a.m.
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    In the 16 team two division conference that TH spoke of, what are the schools that are expected to join?

  • Ken D. Dec 14, 7:22 p.m.
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    We are going to be part of the new conference per a response I got back from Terry Holland.... View More

    — Posted by tcoutouzis

    From ECU's point of view, a seven game league schedule has some advantages. It allows for heavier scheduling against local non-conference rivals, including some of the stronger regional FCS teams like Richmond, ASU and William&Mary. Picture three ACC opponents, one of the FCS schools, Old Dominion and Charlotte on the schedule every year. For the Pirates, given their geography, that's about as good as you could hope to get.

  • tcoutouzis Dec 14, 4:56 p.m.
    Sports Legend

    We are going to be part of the new conference per a response I got back from Terry Holland. There are some schools pushing for a 16 team conference with no crossover games unless you are playing for the conference title. I understand that we will be an all sports member of this new conference when the dust settles.

  • hovis Dec 13, 9:55 p.m.
    All Star

    If the U7 schools break/disolve they would not be able to keep the name Big East as the... View More

    — Posted by davenportj

    The only reason that those seven teams would "blow up" the conference is if the exit... View More

    — Posted by hovis

    They might agree to that if they are being paid to agree to it. If the alternative is for... View More

    — Posted by Ken D.

    Ecu would still be getting hosed because they are not yet a member so I presume they would get no cut of that theoretical deal. Lord have mercy, they may really have to name it conference USA V2.1. What have they gained? Very little.

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