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  • TerrorOnTheHighSeas Apr 23, 7:44 p.m.
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    NC State is a mid major.

  • lazydawg58 Apr 23, 8:59 p.m.
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    With the Grant of rights deal the ACC signed that would seem to help The American Conference. ... View More

    — Posted by lazydawg58

    How does the ACC rights deal help the AAC? Seems to me it sets up a scenario where the only... View More

    — Posted by Ken D.

    I think it stabilizes the conferences now. The Big10, SEC and B12 aren't going to steal any ACC teams, and I don't see the ACC having any desire to expand again if they don't lose any schools. Cincy, UCONN, USF, & UCF have no place to go other than to stay in the American.

    The only disruption I can foresee is if the PAC or B10 pick off some B12 schools like Kansas, OSU, and Oklahoma. And if the B12 falls apart where do these remaining go? I don't think the ACC wants to add again. More likely the American adds Baylor, K-State, WVU and one to three more to form a 16 or 18 team league. But I don't think that is going to happen. I think we now have a calm period after these years of uncertainty.

  • Wolfpocalypse Now Redux Apr 23, 10:59 p.m.
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    NC State is a mid major.

    — Posted by TerrorOnTheHighSeas

    I suppose that makes ECU the biggest (though probably still not the best) community college in North Carolina - congrats!

  • Ken D. Apr 24, 10:57 a.m.
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    With the Grant of rights deal the ACC signed that would seem to help The American Conference. ... View More

    — Posted by lazydawg58

    How does the ACC rights deal help the AAC? Seems to me it sets up a scenario where the only... View More

    — Posted by Ken D.

    I think it stabilizes the conferences now. The Big10, SEC and B12 aren't going to steal any ACC... View More

    — Posted by lazydawg58

    The Big XII has its own grant of media rights deal for the next 13 years (the length of its current deals with ESPN and Fox). If those rights deals are enforceable, and I don't know who might challenge them in court, then no Big XII schools are going to the B1G or the PAC 12, and they certainly aren't going to the ACC, in the foreseeable future.

    The only power conference schools that are in play for the B1G or the Big XII are SEC teams, and that would be a tough sell. The most obvious targets would be, IMO, Missouri, Vanderbilt and Kentucky, all of which fit the B1G from a geographical standpoint. Kentucky, though geographically slightly better suited than Vandy, is the worst fit for cultural and academic reasons, and because it represents the smallest media market of the three. All three schools would probably benefit from a competitive standpoint by leaving the SEC.

    Frankly, I don't think the Big XII would be attractive to any SEC schools. If they want to grow to 12 schools to have a championship game, they either have to look west (BYU?) or northeast (Cincy?). I don't see them getting to 16 schools without access to ACC schools.

    The ACC has more options, the best of which IMO would be to add UConn for all sports and Navy for football only. That would get them to 16 in all sports.

    That would leave the AAC at 9 schools, competitively balanced, and in decent sized media markets. They could get to 12 easily by adding Southern Miss, UAB and La Tech, but those won't add many eyeballs to attract TV networks.

    I don't think this stabilizes the AAC, but it wouldn't hurt it too badly. Unfortunately for ECU, it sort of puts them right back where they started, as a geographical outlier.

  • TerrorOnTheHighSeas Apr 24, 3:13 p.m.
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    NC State is a mid major.

    — Posted by TerrorOnTheHighSeas

    I suppose that makes ECU the biggest (though probably still not the best) community college in... View More

    — Posted by Wolfpocalypse Now Redux

    Nice to hear that your butthurt is still strong after the Pirates beat
    NCSU 33 - 27 at home in front of 50,000 fans.

  • Wolfpocalypse Now Redux Apr 24, 8:21 p.m.
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    NC State is a mid major.

    — Posted by TerrorOnTheHighSeas

    I suppose that makes ECU the biggest (though probably still not the best) community college in... View More

    — Posted by Wolfpocalypse Now Redux

    Nice to hear that your butthurt is still strong after the Pirates beat
    NCSU 33 - 27 at home in... View More

    — Posted by TerrorOnTheHighSeas

    I really doubt we had a crowd of 50,000 for ECU. Maybe for Gardner-Webb or Elon, and definitely for a relevant team like App. State, but for ECU... doubtful.

  • daviepoplar85 Apr 24, 10:43 p.m.
    Sports Legend

    NC State is a mid major.

    — Posted by TerrorOnTheHighSeas

    I suppose that makes ECU the biggest (though probably still not the best) community college in... View More

    — Posted by Wolfpocalypse Now Redux

    Nice to hear that your butthurt is still strong after the Pirates beat
    NCSU 33 - 27 at home in... View More

    — Posted by TerrorOnTheHighSeas

    I really doubt we had a crowd of 50,000 for ECU. Maybe for Gardner-Webb or Elon, and definitely... View More

    — Posted by Wolfpocalypse Now Redux

    57,583 at the last carter-finley game between these two teams.

    (a simple search of the interwebs turns this up for you.)

    that was in 2006 when state "upset" ECU in overtime lol

  • lazydawg58 Apr 24, 11:38 p.m.
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    With the Grant of rights deal the ACC signed that would seem to help The American Conference. ... View More

    — Posted by lazydawg58

    How does the ACC rights deal help the AAC? Seems to me it sets up a scenario where the only... View More

    — Posted by Ken D.

    I think it stabilizes the conferences now. The Big10, SEC and B12 aren't going to steal any ACC... View More

    — Posted by lazydawg58

    The Big XII has its own grant of media rights deal for the next 13 years (the length of its... View More

    — Posted by Ken D.

    I don't really thing the Big12 is going to add schools to get to 12. That is why I think the American is stabilized. And if it is ECU is in a much better position than they were before, and if one or more American schools did leave they are still better of than they would have been if they had stayed in C-USA.

  • Ken D. Apr 25, 8:16 a.m.
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    I think the Big XII hoped snagging West Virginia would get them access to a couple of good media market teams in the east (Pitt comes immediately to mind, along with Virginia Tech). Since that's not going to happen, and it looks like WVU is going to be stuck on an island (believing that they had been promised some company),I wonder what the chances would be that the Big XII would let them off the hook and waive the media rights deal in their case. They are a lousy geographical fit for all their members.

  • Ken D. Apr 25, 8:41 a.m.
    Sports Legend

    ^ If the ACC picked up West Virginia (a great fit with Louisville, Pitt and Virginia Tech) instead of UConn to go to 16 (plus Navy football only), that would stabilize the AAC even more.

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