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  • scousler Oct 31, 5:19 p.m.
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    I think the Pirates should roll it back a bit and drop a level in college football. At present, the best they could ever do is a top 25 finish and a slight bowl upgrade. Rolling back to the Southern Conference would save a ton of money and still provide competitive, entertaining football games.

  • Dafuq Oct 31, 5:09 p.m.
    Pro

    I don't think they should go indie, as they'll probably get less bowl bids than they do now.... View More

    — Posted by Thorpedoed v2

    That ship has already sailed. There is nowhere to go but up at this point.

    — Posted by Ken D.

    They could be cruising for FCS territory if they don't move soon.

  • Ken D. Oct 31, 4:51 p.m.
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    I don't think they should go indie, as they'll probably get less bowl bids than they do now.... View More

    — Posted by Thorpedoed v2

    That ship has already sailed. There is nowhere to go but up at this point.

  • Thorpedoed v2 Oct 31, 11:22 a.m.
    Pro

    I don't think they should go indie, as they'll probably get less bowl bids than they do now. However, they need to quit C-USA like a bad habit before they get caught in a downward spiral.

  • Ken D. Oct 31, 9:54 a.m.
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    When I posted this last July, I'll bet there were a lot fewer fans who would have answered this... View More

    — Posted by Ken D.

    I agree. ECU has better chance of creating and/or maintaining respectability on it's own than... View More

    — Posted by 4tarheels

    You referred to Sunbelt/USA. Why not? It makes more sense than Mountain/USA, at least from a geographical standpoint.

    There are - or will be - 24 schools left in these two conferences. Why not merge into a 24 team mega-conference with four 6-team divisions?

    Piedmont Division: ECU, Marshall, Western Kentucky, Middle Tennessee, Old Dominion and Charlotte.

    Dixie Division: Florida Atlantic, Florida International, Georgia State, UAB, Troy and Southern Miss.

    Gulf Coast Division: South Alabama, Lafayette, Monroe, Louisiana Tech, Tulane, and Arkansas State.

    Lone Star Division: Tulsa, Rice, North Texas, UT San Antonio, Texas State and UTEP.

    Play five division opponents plus one opponent from each of the other three divisions. Piedmont and Dixie champs play each other in one Conference semifinal and Gulf and Lone Star champs in the other. The two winners play each other in a bowl game for the conference championship.

  • scousler Jun 21, 3:45 a.m.
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    Why not go independent - then no one will ever have to watch ECU play football again. We also won't have to worry about some ECU team with a winning record play in a bowl game either. Stop drinking so much and watch ESPN or read a newspaper. ECU is not Notre Dame - never will be - they are lucky to be in C-USA.

  • Ken D. May 6, 1:26 p.m.
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    Independence would be an option with a lot of risks. My concern then is we end up with 7 or 8... View More

    — Posted by richardgoudie

    There's no doubt it's harder to put together a good schedule as an independent. But I don't think it's impossible. I think the very thing that makes it hard for ECU to be part of a strong regional conference helps them as an independent. There are a lot of schools in the region that are part of respectable conferences, and ECU can tap into that.

    For example, I think the Pirates could assemble a core group of annual opponents based on different affinities. Let's say they could play Southern Miss, Marshall, Charlotte and fellow independent BYU every year. To that core, alternate the following pairs of schools home and home so each visits ECU once each four years: UNC/NC State, Wake Forest/Duke, Army/Navy, and South Florida/Central Florida.

    That would give the Pirates four solid home games a year as a base. To beef up their schedule, ECU has avoided playing FCS opponents in their four non-conference games. As an independent, there are a lot of fan-worthy opponents in the region that they could play as a fifth home game. These include William & Mary, Richmond, Old Dominion, Furman, App State and others.

    That leaves three games a year, and a host of possible opponents the Pirates have played in the recent past, including in Greenville. These include UAB, Maryland, UVa, Rutgers, UConn, Temple, South Carolina, Kentucky, Vanderbilt, Georgia, Virginia Tech and West Virginia. Even Notre Dame is a potential opponent.

    Once every four years, I would try to schedule a Thanksgiving weekend game at Hawaii, since doing so allows ECU to schedule a 13th regular season game. That could provide interested fans with a bowl-like experience at a nice location, to offset the limitations not having a contractual bowl tie-in might create.

    In short, I think ECU could have a more attractive, fan friendly schedule as an independent than in a weak, far-flung C-USA.

  • 4tarheels May 6, 9:54 a.m.
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    When I posted this last July, I'll bet there were a lot fewer fans who would have answered this... View More

    — Posted by Ken D.

    I agree. ECU has better chance of creating and/or maintaining respectability on it's own than associating with the Sun Belt/USA. Either that, or Pirate fans need to come to grips with fact that ECU is no better La. Tech, etc.

  • Ken D. May 4, 4:24 p.m.
    Sports Legend

    When I posted this last July, I'll bet there were a lot fewer fans who would have answered this question "yes" than there are today.

  • richardgoudie Apr 29, 8:03 a.m.
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    Additonal Perspective:

    http://espn.go.com/blog/bigeast/post/_/id/32189/where-does-big-east-fit-in-future-bcs

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