Should ECU declare its independence?
Ken D. Feb 16, 12:01 p.m.
It seems to me that both the Big East and C-USA are expanding, not by adding better teams than they already had, but by moving further down the food chain. At the end of the day, both of them are weaker - and significantly so - than they were before all this started. The Big East has moved down to the level C-USA occupied pre-expansion (indeed, 7 of their 12 members are now former C-USA teams) while C-USA is threatening to become Sunbelt West.
They are both in a race to see which is the taller midget.
tcoutouzis Feb 16, 8:58 a.m.
From what I have heard they are looking at Temple, FIU and a team from Ohio that hasn't been named. Temple just wants football only which I am not sure will fly with the conference vision. Terry seems confident that they will go to 24 teams and will be a better conference than the Big East with a better TV deal.
I think they might include 1 or 2 1AA schools. Maybe App and Georgia Southern.
Pirates of the East Feb 15, 3:56 p.m.
A picture to show how spread out this conference is (not sure why Temple is added since they are not part of the Alliance, yet). http://i.imgur.com/KYMcv.png. We definitely need more teams in the East, UTEP, Tulsa and even Rice can move West to accommodate Eastern teams. Currently, us and Marshall are the only teams in the Eastern Time Zone.
Ken D. Feb 14, 1:25 p.m.
Personally, I would have preferred that ECU try to put together a separate eastern league, keeping its recent rivals Southern Miss, Marshall and to a lesser extent UAB as a base. They aren't going to get big bucks from TV no matter what they do at this point, so they should use other criteria in selecting new partners. I'd prefer adding Middle Tennessee and Western Kentucky out of the Sunbelt, and App State and Georgia Southern from the FCS.
I think Temple and FIU are fool's gold. They may be in big cities, but those are both pro towns for the most part. A nice, tight 8-team league works for me on a lot of levels. But I don't expect it to happen. I expect the new merged league will try to go to 24 teams. In that case, here's what I'd like to see the four divisions look like.
ECU, Marshall, Southern Miss, UAB, Middle Tennessee and Western Kentucky.
Tulsa, Rice, Tulane, Louisiana Tech, North Texas, UT San Antonio
Air Force, Colorado St, Wyoming, New Mexico, New Mexico St, UTEP
UNLV, Nevada, Fresno St, Utah State, San Jose State, Hawaii
Ken D. Feb 13, 8:16 p.m.
This isn't about the BCS, or even because of it. It's about television. BCS payouts are chump change in the budgets of the major conferences. ACC teams get far more money from TV than the BCS.
If this league picks up the remaining WAC teams, which would otherwise be orphans, the network they contract with will have lots of inventory. Unfortunately. it will be games few people will watch. I agree with you - I don't like it at all. And I don't think it will last, just like I don't think the new "Big East" will last.
Pirates of the East Feb 13, 3:28 p.m.
I wish CUSA would have just picked up FIU, Temple, La. Tech, and then pick App or Lafayette, Army, FAU, or Georgia Southern as the fourth, and screw the merger. The BCS has completely screwed college football.
Pirates of the East Feb 13, 3:20 p.m.
The merger just went down. http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story/_/id/7571596/mountain-west-c-usa-form-new-conference
I dont really like this. It appears football wont have to go west unless its in the conference championship game, but I dont know about basketball and other non-football teams. I think it maybe better if we can get our non-football teams in to the A-10, basketball would increase but baseball would take a serious hit in competition which would hurt.
Sauras69 Feb 12, 9:05 p.m.
The Big East scrambled to get some teams to buy in. Sinking ship in two more years. These new teams will not stick.
Ken D. Feb 11, 9:47 a.m.
Actually, based on a national study of college football fanbase sizes, they have more fans than ECU does (roughly 500K to 350K). The study noted, though, that there were sometimes big differences in how avid those fans were.
I think it should also be noted that avidity of fans may be related at least in part to how many strong natural rivals they have. How excited are Houston fans (and there are surprisingly few of those) going to be to play San Diego State, Rutgers or UConn? The Big East picked some large markets, but the teams in those markets aren't very exciting or well supported. I think they are going to be very disappointed when they negotiate their TV package.
tcoutouzis Feb 11, 9:06 a.m.
Ken UCF averaged around 20-25K fans this year. In their best year in school history last year they never sold out one home game. They just reside in a big market. They do not have a lot of fan support.
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