Mandy Mitchell

Expectations low for Pack Hoops

Posted July 2, 2013
Updated July 3, 2013

Since arriving at NC State, Mark Gottfried has never really been the kind of guy to "talk up" his team. Even when he had great talent returning  last year he reminded the fans to keep expectations level saying it was hard to get to the Final Four. He turned out to be correct in making sure hopes didn't get too high.

As you would expect, he's doing the same thing this year.

"I think our guys understand that most people are going to consider us to be pretty bad this year," Gottfried said. "I'm realistic and I know that our expectations are not high right now."

No kidding. It's hard to see why expectations would be high for this team. All five guys who started last year's season opener are gone from campus. That includes Rodney Purvis who transferred to UConn. The roster has some incoming talent but these players will have to learn the system and learn to gel fast. 

"I go to the grocery store and I have a guy say 'hang in there coach. I know it's going to be a tough year for you,'" Gottfried said. He's aware of the challenge ahead and has gotten very good at making sure the fans are aware of what could be.

Gottfried has his returning players in leadership seminars this summer. He's trying to make leaders out of guys like TJ Warren and Tyler Lewis. You can tell Gottfried would also love for Jordan Vandenberg to step up this season. He said the senior is losing weight and needs to lose more weight before the season begins.

Overall, this season will do a lot to show how good a coach Mark Gottfried is. He had a group of really talented players last year and they didn't win a game in the NCAA tournament. Now he has the opposite. No target on the back. No expectations.

"Maybe we are a team that can surprise some people," Gottfried said.

State proved to be a surprise last season and maybe they can do that again. This time it would be a pleasant surprise for Pack fans.


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  • larrys080.v2 Jul 7, 2013

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    Guess Roy is better than one ABC fans give him credit for then! Coached a team of players he wouldn't have recruited including McCants and his attitude to a Natty!

  • VT1994Hokie Jul 6, 2013

    Coach Gott had maybe one of the best teams caliber wise at State in a long time. They didn't have any chemistry, and they played selfishly too often. No team can win without discipline from the players. I didn't seen much when Leslie poisoned this team for two straight years. Sid couldn't do it either. We all see where his is today. i would rather see an average player getting experience vs a hot dog like CJ.

  • VT1994Hokie Jul 4, 2013

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    True that Battling. CJ Leslie, McCants, and others come to mind.

  • BattlingBishop 5 Jul 4, 2013

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    Players with bad attitudes can't be coached.

  • VT1994Hokie Jul 3, 2013

    The media may have casused some to the hype for NC State last season, but they had the notion that State would live up to this with all 5 starters coming back. Coach Gott never stated anything to quell this either for some that have written on this one.

  • BattlingBishop 5 Jul 3, 2013

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  • VT1994Hokie Jul 3, 2013

    State has recruited very well since Sid's days and, as well as Coach Gott. They lost players to the NBA that should have stayed. Brown should still be here. Leslie should have left before last season. He hurt his stock with his attitude, and this team several times. Rebuilding is a tough task for any team and coach. I still wonder why more from the bench didn't get more time on the court.

  • unc70 Jul 3, 2013

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    A few people at Pack Pride have done sound research, but PP has often been very wrong, even when faced with solid evidence refuting their allegations. The docs unsealed by the Secretary of State supports statements by Thorp, Martin, et al and not claims at PP of a massive coverup, payments from UNC boosters, etc. There was a lot wrong at UNC, but far less than PP believes. The evidence against the sports agents is far reaching as the trail of phone, email, and bank records connects agents to players to other agents, ... From just the docs at SoS site, we know it's big.

    As for things at State, anyone have the FOI requested emails, phone recs, etc,?

    I investigated the problems with the toxic waste site at CFS, how and why it's there, hidden in plain sight, the near total lack of news coverage in 35 years, or who was at fault, who profited, was there a coverup, where did the toxic waste go before CFS? A task for PP.

    BTW Everett Case tops that list, not Valvano. Worst NCAA probation until SMU. Case acted properly with point shaving scandal. State was on NCAA probation for 5 years, 1 year in bb, 4 in all sports!!

  • Barely Jul 3, 2013

    Eh, we'll be fine and then the UNC jounalists can dig up garbage on us and print it all over the News and Disturber.

  • VT1994Hokie Jul 3, 2013

    I don't think Gott shuld say any of this to the media. The players hear this, and it lowers expectations. IMO.




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