Caulton Tudor

Ghost of scandal haunts UNC

Posted September 5, 2013
Updated September 6, 2013

Greg Little is scheduled to start at a wide-out position for Cleveland against Miami when the Browns start their NFL season Sunday.

Marvin Austin, cut Tuesday by the New York Giants, is looking for an NFL job again.

Butch Davis, working as a special assistant to head coach Greg Schiano, will be with the Tampa Bay Bucs in their opener against the New York Jets.

Two full seasons have passed since Davis last coached a game at North Carolina. Three seasons have passed since Little and Austin played for the Tar Heels. But still their residue on the program will haunt Kenan Stadium like a poltergeist cluster when Carolina opens its 2103 home schedule Saturday against Middle Tennessee.

Thanks to Thursday’s revelations that Little and Austin were receiving thousands of dollars in illegal payments from Georgia-based sports agent Terry Watson in 2010, yet another UNC season has been launched against the backdrop of a maddening experience that somehow seems to reverberate endlessly.

Second-year coach Larry Fedora spent much of his first season on campus talking about leaving it all behind and proclaimed it a dead issue at times during this off-season. But as Thursday’s news proved, nightmares can have a way of lingering.

ACC needs assist from UGa

In the sense that football wins can work along the same line of the international monetary exchange, the ACC needs for Georgia to defeat South Carolina Saturday in Athens.

Otherwise, Clemson’s stirring 38-35 win over Georgia last weekend instantly would lose some of its gloss and even more of its transient value.

That would particularly be the case if the Gamecocks go between the hedges and leave with a convincing double-digit win.

An ACC best-case weekend would include a Georgia win, a Brigham Young (loser to Virginia last weekend) win over Texas and, of course, upset wins by the Cavaliers over Oregon and Syracuse over Northwestern, combined with a Miami win over Florida.

Sad week for Butler fans

This item is more basketball-centric than football, but maybe the most lovable mascot in all of college athletics passed away when Butler’s Blue II, age 9, died last weekend.

With his super-sized chew bone, the frisky English bulldog became a national television star during the 2010 Final Four.

His successor, Blue III (“Trip”), has some big paw pads to fill.

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  • unc70 Sep 8, 2013

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    The SoS documents unsealed nearly six months ago provided details regarding payments made by Watson to two of the players on your list: Culliver at SC and Spikes at Florida. I discussed at the time:

    http://www.wralsportsfan.com/ugc/page/3530905/?d_id_edit=0&id=12207565&d_full_comments=1&d_comments_page=20The document unsealed this week expands the list of agents that seem to be under investigation. Little claims he also received payments from prominent financial advisor Marty Blazer and that he (Greg Little) met with other agents at Wiley's house. While most of these names had appeared back in 2010 in disclosure reports by UNC to the NCAA and elsewhere, there are several new names including Jimmy Sexton and Peter Schaffer.

  • unc70 Sep 8, 2013

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    The newly released information regarding additional payments by Watson to Greg Little were first discovered less than a year ago by SoS investigators following seizure of Watson's business records, computers, etc. and the subsequent forensic analysis of his computer including backups / syncs to it of his iPhone. Those backups included txt messages with players and others, evidence that otherwise would have been difficult to recover. The interview with Greg Little was not until late January 2013.

    None of this was ever "legally public information" until the court this week unsealed the SoS search warrant. Even if someone at UNC had reason to know this information before that, it would have been restricted under rules governing an ongoing felony investigation.

    The allegations by you (and many others) that UNC had this information for several years, but stonewalled its release as part of some supposed PR strategy is a totally absurd allegation without basis in fact and refuted as even a possibility by the Sos documents unsealed by the court last week.

    Many here, me included, state regarding various revelations, "Whether UNC knew or not, they should have. They should have noticed (in this case) what Little was doing with an extra $20,000!"
    Frustrated and dismayed, I try to understand what actually happened in each case. In regard to Little, the answer is that lots of people noticed, and some took action. According to Little, et al, the payments from agents began around the time of the spring game in late April and by early October the players were already off the team and ruled ineligible by the NCAA. Their actions had been noticed, investigated, decided upon, and actions taken -- all in the course of under six months.

  • Objective Scientist Sep 7, 2013

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    Even though your post is the one immediately after most recent post I made you must not have read it... or if you did you did not understand it. I say that because your comment makes no sense, ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE, following my comments. I made it very clear I am a UNC alumnus and fan. Having done that... do my post/comments in ANY way suggest that I am "proud" of the "c*ap" that has gone on... and that I have no integrity, no morals, no values???

  • Groogrux Sep 7, 2013

    Like I keep saying, UNC fans are very proud that they can cheat and get away with it . Very proud. No integrity. No credibility. No values. No morals. Enjoy. It's all you have.

  • Objective Scientist Sep 6, 2013

    There is NO way I could possibly be more disgusted with ANYTHING than I am with the UNC "MESS"!!! For those who don't know... I am a "Tar Heel" with 3 degrees from UNC - and I say that up front so no one thinks I am an "ABCer" based on my comments. There are others, but consider the latest news item about Greg Little. He was a guy on FULL athletic scholarship. He had NO "expenses" with regard to attending school! How could it happen that he was being "paid" up to - perhaps even more? - $20,000 and NO ONE NOTICE! What about what he was able to do, clothes he could by, "bling" he came to have, etc., etc.? Who believes NO ONE noticed that? Another question... does ANYONE believe that Greg Little did not know that what was going on was WRONG... against NCAA regulations... even ILLEGAL??? He is getting money from an "agent", but the money is being "laundered" through Wiley - the "tutor" - so Little KNEW that was going on! Anyone believe for a moment that he is being "exploited", taken advantage of, etc. and he was innocently - and conveniently - ignorant of the fact that rules and laws were being violated? Com'on... you'd have to be the biggest IMBECILE EVER to believe that! Now... Little is doing what he wanted to do all along... play for the big bucks in the NFL! Greg Little - and Marvin Austin - are NOT 'innocents'! They were NOT 'exploited' in ANY way. They both KNEW what they were doing was wrong, if not illegal! Where is their culpability in this? I'm "sick" of the athletes and coaches (Butch Davis) walking away from such matters without paying any penalty. Universities MUST write coaches contracts to hold coaches more accountable and to deny the "golden parachutes". Universities must write scholarship agreements that hold players accountable! Greg Little should be required to REPAY UNC-CH for everything, and I mean EVERYTHING, provided to him while he was at UNC - including being "taught" or coached by very handsomely paid coaches, etc.

  • Warren G. is back again Sep 6, 2013

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    Don't bother man. They won't listen even if you were to quote a player from another school that was admitting guilt. No way you can ever win in this conversation.

  • Tunaboy Sep 6, 2013

    Sports agent Terry Watson also represented these players:
    Mike Harris, Fla. St.
    Antonio Allen, S. Carolina
    Allen Bailey, Miami
    Brandon Spikes, UF
    Chris Culliver, S. Carolina

    Surely none of these guys got paid and the only players that ever got paid by this guy went to UNC. Right?? And South Carolina's internal investigation found no wrong doing. UNC has self-reported problems and addressed them so all you lily-white angels out there be sure to keep your halos polished.

  • kornfan2448 Sep 6, 2013

    Say what you want, but even as a UNC fan, these continual tidbits, do not look good on UNC's behalf. Regardless if UNC knew the precise amount of illegal benefits Little received, they should have. Having received nearly four times the amount as originally reported looks bad any way you look at it. I, as much as anyone want this aired out truthfully and completely so it can be put to rest. As long as these little nuggets keep floating to the surface, it's gonna stink for a long time.

  • houndog Sep 6, 2013

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    In defense, this is actually news because it just came out. The reason this scandal continues to surface is because UNC stonewalled so much information that it's been taking years for what is legally public information to come out. Blame the team you root for, not the media or opposing fans. Their PR strategy was to delay and lawyer up ... this is the result of that strategy. I could see how fans of UNC are sick of it but without any argument, you can only blame the school, not the vehicles that report it.

  • chuck2 Sep 6, 2013

    Okay. That's it for me. I'll be deleting WRAL's link and go elsewhere for my sports information, somewhere where the writers and whoever else connected to the sports department are not so 100% negatively bias toward a certain program and/or school.

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