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Johnny Football has uncoachable ability

Posted May 8

There is no question. I would draft Johnny Manziel as fast as I cold get him, because he has the ability to do things on the field that can't be coached.

Sure, there is a risk -- the kid known as "Johnny Football" has been somewhat of a wild card but I would rather be wrong and take him than to be wrong and pass on him.

I also said that about Cam Newton when he was coming out of school. When I was in the draft room, my comment was, "God only made one of him."

Logan: "I would draft Manziel as fast as I could get him."

There are creative intangibles with Manziel that simply cannot be coached. Like Newton, he can run as fast as he needs to. He has the fastest feet I have ever seen on a quarterback and can make plays that no other guy can. His style is a "Backyard" kind of football that has now been accepted by the NFL.

The hesitations with many teams are that they have over-analyzed players. They are looking for negatives. Manziel is probably the most over-analyzed of any player in the draft.

Bottom line: Manziel has the ability to be successful in the NFL if he gets with a coach who understands his ability and let's him make the most of his talents. Struggles will only come if he is forced to change how he plays.

'Live like a Pauper'

Agents are known for getting into the heads of prospects. They say they can teach them to run faster, train better and really, they are just getting as much money out of a kid before they ever make a dollar.

I saw the other day where Teddy Bridgewatter bought his mother a pink Cadillac. I just wanted to call Teddy and say, "You are going about it all wrong. You are one knee injury away. You need to live like a pauper."

Unlike Manziel, who comes from money, the majority of these athletes are coming from no money. The challenge is how they handle new-found money.

It's flattering when somebody tells you you are going to go in the first round. Kids fall for it. Kids leave college and think all the NFL people have all the answers. They forget the four and five years of direction given to them by a college coach. It's the leach in the profession.

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  • NothingButNet May 11, 12:38 p.m.

    He's too small, and frankly his throwing ability isn't that great. Scrambling can help make up... View More

    — Posted by PDC - 1996

    You don't Jack. I already know that you haven't played nor coached Little League. Your stateme... View More

    — Posted by vt94hokies

    Anyone that keeps you away from this forum is OK in my book. The only one who thinks they "know it all" here is you, yet your writing shows just how much you don't know.

  • ACC EXPERT May 10, 4:14 p.m.

    Steve Logan missed this one big time. He still knows more football than any of us on here, for... View More

    — Posted by vt94hokies

    listen to Logan's mouth you would think he knew everything but I see he doesn't pull in any job offers-- to hear him talk you can understand why he has been let go. Those two guys in the afternoon have got their nose so far up his --- they giggle like little school girls

  • Doc Holliday May 10, 1:02 a.m.

    He's too small, and frankly his throwing ability isn't that great. Scrambling can help make up... View More

    — Posted by PDC - 1996

    Actually his throwing ability is remarkable. He has huge hands and a strong arm.

    It is his head... View More

    — Posted by uBnice

    Good analysis. If Johnny doesn't grow up, he's going to be in trouble. I can imagine what... View More

    — Posted by GunnyGoesArrrgh

    Clowney is only good for 1 to 2 plays a series so he won't do too much. Is Smith really the guy to be giving advice on 'tude adjustment?

  • vt94hokies May 9, 9:07 p.m.

    Little Jonny can play this game. I truly don't even like his sorry attitude. He will show some of naysayers something next season. He will learn to slide down, throw it away, and how to protect his body. For all of those that know it on here, I see now exactly why I don't write much any more. Some make me laugh in how they know it all. I have called names on here for a long time.

  • vt94hokies May 9, 8:44 p.m.

    He's too small, and frankly his throwing ability isn't that great. Scrambling can help make up... View More

    — Posted by PDC - 1996

    Actually his throwing ability is remarkable. He has huge hands and a strong arm.

    It is his head... View More

    — Posted by uBnice

    Good analysis. If Johnny doesn't grow up, he's going to be in trouble. I can imagine what... View More

    — Posted by GunnyGoesArrrgh

    He is going to become a player. He isn't going to blow the doors off just because he's a Number 1 draftee. He will be like Julius Peppers that plays 3 plays and take the next 3 plays off. Don't you see this? Nah. You know all things about football and basketball. Don't you?

  • vt94hokies May 9, 8:01 p.m.

    He's too small, and frankly his throwing ability isn't that great. Scrambling can help make up... View More

    — Posted by PDC - 1996

    You don't Jack. I already know that you haven't played nor coached Little League. Your statements have made me stay off of this forum for a while now. You and people like Gunnstigator have pretty much turned most off on this forum. The truth.

  • vt94hokies May 9, 7:53 p.m.

    Steve Logan missed this one big time. He still knows more football than any of us on here, for sure. For the esteemed poster that stated that he is too short. You need to grow up and get some. Smitty caused huge problems down there in his last 3-4 seasons. All you have to do is read. Clowney isn't going to do anymore havoc than the guys that are already there. I truly don't even like Johnny, but he does have the skills necessary to win games. I'm glad that he was taken at 22nd. Maybe this will wake him up; a little. Fuller from VT was #14. I like this. I would like to hear from the sidelines that know it all on here.

  • GunnyGoesArrrgh May 9, 6:34 a.m.

    He's too small, and frankly his throwing ability isn't that great. Scrambling can help make up... View More

    — Posted by PDC - 1996

    Actually his throwing ability is remarkable. He has huge hands and a strong arm.

    It is his head... View More

    — Posted by uBnice

    Good analysis. If Johnny doesn't grow up, he's going to be in trouble. I can imagine what Smitty would tell him, and I can also imagine what Clowney will do to him should their teams play each other this year.

  • uBnice May 8, 7:36 p.m.

    A short QB, like Drew Brees and Russell Wilson, have to have exceptional things happen. In Brees case it is his coach and receivers. In Wilson's case, it was his team's defense and running game. I can barely remember any of Seattle's receivers as "awesome". Wilson's stats as a QB was very average, but the team did not require him to be all world. But what both Brees and Wilson exhibit is exceptional maturity, poise, and clearly the ability to lead NFL men.

    I just don't think Manziel is a franchise QB. Second round. Just an opinion.

  • Doc Holliday May 8, 6:50 p.m.

    "Bottom line: Manziel has the ability to be successful in the NFL if he gets with a coach who understands his ability and let's him make the most of his talents. Struggles will only come if he is forced to change how he plays."

    Agreed 100%! You don't change what a player is doing unless he is struggling. Unfortunately, certain coaches think they know everything & start messing with players from day 1 and that just creates problems for the player/s.

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