Football

Logan: Hernandez's situation and cheating in college football

Posted June 27, 2013

Former New England Patriots and Florida Gators tight end Aaron Hernandez was charged with first-degree murder and is being held without bail in connection with the death of 27-year old semi-pro football player Odin Lloyd. Hernandez could face life in prison without parole if convicted. Former East Carolina head coach Steve Logan said coaches put in measures to try and build athletes into productive, law-abiding citizens, but it is on the player to put those lessons into actions.

“These guys are in a culture and they refuse to separate themselves from that culture once they get into the big money and the big fame,” Logan said while joining Mike and Mark on The World’s Strongest Morning Show on 620 the Buzz Thursday morning. “That culture is going to drag you down.”

Every year, the NFL puts rookies through a program before the start of the preseason to educate them about staying out of trouble.

Logan, just as any coach, said he had a few incidents while coaching at ECU and Tampa Bay Buccaneers but said athletes ultimately control their own future and the staff can only guide them in the right direction.

“You educate, you do your best with them, but a percentage of them are going to blow themselves up,” said Logan. “You get a guy with a lot of time and lot of money, it’s a car wreck waiting to happen if they don’t have a spirit of discernment and discretion. If somebody is bound on self-destructing then they’re going to self-destruct.”

In the collegiate ranks, the University of Oregon received three years’ probation Wednesday for recruiting violations under former head coach Chip Kelly. The Ducks must surrender one scholarship for the next three years, but were not banned from postseason play. Kelly was hired by the Philadelphia Eagles shortly after the college football season ended and was issued an 18-month ban from college football Wednesday.

Logan brought up the old coaching saying, ‘Cheaters are Champions’.

“The risk for cheating and the punishment you may receive, it’s well worth the risk,” Logan said. “It’s well worth the risk to cheat your brains out and get as much money as you can as a coach then let the chips fall where they may. Every coach out there pushes that thing to the very limits of the rules. I don’t see where the cheaters are really getting punished enough.”

Logan will work with quarterbacks and wide receivers for rising 7-12 graders at the Football Flight Camp at Ravenscroft School from July 23-25. For more information, visit the Ravenscroft School website.
 

14 Comments

This story is closed for comments.

Oldest First
View all
  • NEVER apologize for being white Jun 27, 9:47 p.m.

    You mean to tell me there is more than one school breaking the "rules"? REALLY!!!

    I cant believe that Steve Logan is insinuating that the winning programs in college football "cheat" Really? WOW!!!! I'm shocked!!!!

    I just can't believe that USC, Notre Damit, Nebraska, Florida, Alabama, LSU, Texas, Oklahoma, Florida State, Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State, Georgia, Miami, Tennessee, have won NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS and broke any "rules"

    Theres no way!!!!!

  • StunGunn Jun 27, 8:48 p.m.

    Logan tells it like it is: coaches push the envelope, the trouble is, some push it too far.

    Programs have to be punished, but it's always the new coach and players who didn't do anything wrong that are left holding the bag.

  • Honesty first Jun 27, 5:24 p.m.

    Everyone knows that Urban Meyer did whatever he had to to win at every place he has ever been (at UF for sure). He will continue until he gets a show cause penalty from the NCAA. I will be that tOSU will be nailed by the NCAA again within 5 years

  • Jewelry-EricLeak Jun 27, 4:37 p.m.

    yes, Cheaters like UNC.

    — Posted by NCSU84

    And like NC State where players arrested with drugs that mask PEDs and then get the charges... View More

    — Posted by Jewelry-EricLeak

    A large number of incoming freshmen benefit from the First Year College program, considering how... View More

    — Posted by lewiskr45

    A very large number of football and basketball players benefit for several years at NC State from the First Year College program. Fixed that for you.

  • huxter72 Jun 27, 4:25 p.m.

    Look, as one earlier post stated, nothing's going to happen until, and only until somebody feels the wrath of losing dollars, and I mean huge dollars. I agree to some extent with what Logan has said about coaches trying to steer their players in the right direction. But I also believe there are coaches out there that only use that player for his ability, then basically discards him. Really not caring what happens to that player.

  • jsharpe45 Jun 27, 4:16 p.m.

    The problem is that when the NCAA punishes someone, it is the people who didn't do anything wrong that get punished. The players and coaches who cheat move on and still get their payday. The other problem is coaches have to cheat, too much money on the line. Do you think they would cheat if the made $100,000 to $300,000 instead of millions. There were warning signs with Hernandez, but Florida and Meyer (ESPN's darling) chose to ignore them.

  • Boogalooboy Jun 27, 3:51 p.m.

    The NCAA are the cheaters if anyone. You can take away scholarships etc but til you bust these programs in the hip pocket... No bowl, no TV for 5 or maybe 10 yrs these programs will continue doing what they do...dramatic as it sounds to stop it you have to have teeth in the punishment....

  • 4tarheels Jun 27, 2:57 p.m.

    It is NOT UNC! It is NOT NC STATE! It is NOT ____! It is the entirety of intercollegiate... View More

    — Posted by Objective Scientist

    Yet these players still get drafted. Like Logan said later in his interview, coaches/teams will... View More

    — Posted by lewiskr45

    Why do we expect athletes to be any different than people in normal life?

  • Ken D. Jun 27, 2:55 p.m.

    yes, Cheaters like UNC.

    — Posted by NCSU84

    And like NC State where players arrested with drugs that mask PEDs and then get the charges... View More

    — Posted by Jewelry-EricLeak

    A large number of incoming freshmen benefit from the First Year College program, considering how... View More

    — Posted by lewiskr45

    The only schools I'm aware of that don't have programs (or professors) to help athletes stay eligible are the service academies.

  • lewiskr45 Jun 27, 1:57 p.m.

    It is NOT UNC! It is NOT NC STATE! It is NOT ____! It is the entirety of intercollegiate... View More

    — Posted by Objective Scientist

    Yet these players still get drafted. Like Logan said later in his interview, coaches/teams will do whatever they can to win. How many times did PacMan Jones get arrested and then signed with another team? Look at Ray Lewis, Mike Vick, Chad Johnson, etc. One team may pass on these players, but another will quickly sign him.

More...

 

 

  • Sun Bowl: Duke vs. Arizona State

    Saturday at 2:00 pm on WRAL-TV

  • NHL: Hurricanes at NY Rangers

    Tonight at 7:00 on 99.9 The Fan

  • CBB: Louisiana Tech at NC State

    Tuesday at 7:00 pm on WRAL-FM

Scoreboard
Local
Final
CAR 17
CLE 13
7:00pm Tonight
NYR
CAR
Final
TOR 118
NYK 108
3rd
CLE 71
MEM 66
 
6:00pm Tonight
MIA
BOS
1st
BRK 0
DET 0
 
6:00pm Tonight
SAC
LAL
1st
ORL 0
PHI 0
 
1st
WAS 2
PHO 0
 
7:00pm Tonight
MIN
IND
7:00pm Tonight
OKC
NOP
Final
UVA 76
HARV 27
Final
BGU 68
FERST 82
 
Final
ARMY 72
MAINE 69
 
Final
QUIN 60
ORST 52
Final
CLST 69
USF 65
 
Final
CARK 55
CCAR 72
 
Final
UWGB 66
ARKLR 46
 
Final
RAD 74
CORN 61
 
Final
UNT 62
CREI 58
Final
CAN 67
HC 48
 
Final
USB 67
GHND 52
 
Final
OKST 64
MD 73
Final
WINT 100
REIN 72
 
Final
UGST 68
SMISS 55
Final
NEOM 77
TXPA 72
 
Final
STLU 58
VERM 55
 
Final
UNCA 62
WCU 66
 
Final
EVAN 81
ALAST 63
 
Final
HART 82
FIU 69
 
Final
VALPO 82
GOSHEN 55
 
Final
LIP 69
PEAY 63
 
Final
DEN 46
BRY 48
 
Final
MONT 62
SD 67
 
Final
MTST 65
TENST 47
Final
SAMF 64
LAMON 50
 
Final
SCAR 78
COKR 52
 
Final
HAMP 75
NARZ 66
 
Final
SDU 71
SDCHR 61
 
Final
BC 71
USC 75
 
2nd
NICST 49
TROY 53
 
2nd
BRAD 47
UCI 51
 
1st
UGA 14
SHU 4
 
6:30pm Tonight
ALA
APP
7:00pm Tonight
KSU
NDST
 
7:00pm Tonight
WASU
SJST
9:00pm Tonight
UTEP
ALCOR
 
10:00pm Tonight
SEAT
SACST
 
1st
DET 0
COL 0
 
1st
EDM 0
DAL 0
 
7:00pm Tonight
BOS
BUF
7:00pm Tonight
NYR
CAR
7:00pm Tonight
CHI
TOR
9:00pm Tonight
WIN
PHI
Final
NOS 14
ATL 30
Final
HOU 25
BAL 13
Final
CAR 17
CLE 13
Final
CHI 14
DET 20
Final
TAM 3
GBP 20
Final
PIT 20
KAN 12
Final
MIA 37
MIN 35
Final
NYJ 16
NEP 17
3rd
STL 13
NYG 27
 
Half
OAK 13
BUF 10
 
3rd
DAL 28
IND 0
 
8:30pm Tonight
ARI
SEA