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Caulton Tudor

Loss leaves UNC a bowl long shot

Posted October 18, 2013

Aside from the 27-23 loss to Miami on Thursday night in Chapel Hill, there was heavy collateral damage for North Carolina’s football program.

Now 1-5 overall (0-3 ACC), the odds are stacked squarely against the Tar Heels going to a bowl game in Larry Fedora’s second season.

While there’s not a game left UNC can’t conceivably win – Boston College, Virginia, Old Dominion and Duke in Chapel Hill and N.C. State and Pitt on the road – it’s difficult to envision this error-prone team going 5-1 for a 6-6 finishing record on the back side of the schedule.

Missing a bowl trip wouldn’t destroy this year’s recruiting – assuming, that is, Fedora and his staff can eventually sign their 22 commitments.

But after having been ineligible for post-season a year ago, the new staff had placed a lot of emphasis on reaching at least a mid-tier bowl this season. That’s definitely not going to happen. Even if the Heels can win out for a 7-5 finish, their best hope would be the Belk Bowl in Charlotte (Dec. 28) but more likely the Military Bowl (Dec. 27, Washington/Annapolis).

With senior quarterback Bryn Renner and junior tight end Eric Ebron (projected 1st-round NFL pick) moving out of the program, a dramatic record improvement in 2014 looks unlikely, giving recruiting rivals an significant propaganda windfall.

That Carolina should have won Thursday is obvious.

Miami lost four starters to injuries almost immediately and then committed four turnovers. The Hurricanes (6-0, 2-0) did their part to give the Heels’ season a thrust, but Carolina just wasn’t able to capitalize and now will live with the consequences – possibly all the way to spring drills.

ACC & The Heisman Trophy 

It’s still a long shot for both Tajh Boyd of Clemson and Jameis Winston of Florida State, but Saturday’s showdown game in Death Valley should provide at least one of the quarterbacks with enough national exposure to stay in the Heisman Trophy conversation.

Here at WRAL we have two Heisman voters. Sports anchor Jeff Gravley has one and I have one. As the season progresses, we plan to give readers updates on our leanings.

For now, the field of contenders is probably too varied to handicap, although 2012 winner Johnny Manziel of Texas A&M is likely the early leader.

But Boyd, a senior and last season’s ACC player of the year, and Winston, a red-shirt freshman, are in the chase. The ACC has produced only two winners – Florida State quarterbacks Charlie Ward (1993) and Chris Weinke (2000).
It’s interesting that in 1981, when Clemson went 12-0 and won the national title, no Tiger (or any other ACC player) finished in the top 10.

In fact, Yale running back Rich Diana received more voting support, finishing 10th behind winner Marcus Allen of Southern Cal.

Clemson running back C.J. Spiller did finish sixth in 2009, when Alabama runner Mark Ingram won with relative ease.
The ACC’s best voting season was in 1999, when Georgia Tech QB Joe Hamilton was runner-up to Wisconsin RB Ron Dayne with FSU wide-out Peter Warrick taking sixth and Virginia RB Thomas Jones eighth. No. 3 that season was Virginia Tech QB Michael Vick, but the Hokies weren’t yet in the ACC.

And before the formation of the league in 1953, UNC’s nationally celebrated star Charlie Justice finished second twice – 1947 to SMU’s Doak Walker and 1948 to Notre Dame’s Leon Hart with Walker taking third.

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  • User287647 Oct 22, 6:53 p.m.

    My question that no one in the media will ask. Who call that third down and inches play to take out marquees and put in Renner? When Fedora offense is working marquese is in the line up? Has anybody heard? Did fedora say it was his call? Geeesss

  • Chapel Hail Oct 20, 5:19 p.m.

    ... tell me who has UNC lost to that they weren't suppose to, nobody, even ECU was seen as an equal at least if not better than the Heels, so really no surprises so far.

  • NCSUclassof90 Oct 20, 11:33 a.m.

    That cesspool is getting what it deserves.

  • heelsforever Oct 19, 3:43 p.m.

    From a story posted right here at WRAL Sports back on Nov 8th of last year about David Thompson... View More

    — Posted by heelsforever

    If that is true...the ACC gave the trophy...NOT NCSU.

    — Posted by TThMFs

    So! Surely you have the ability to understand that if it is OK to reward a team on probation for... View More

    — Posted by heelsforever

    NCSU did NOT reward their team. The ACC did NOT reward ewenc with a divsion championship. B!tch... View More

    — Posted by TThMFs

    I get it; your team deserved a reward while on probation, but the Heels didn't. My argument is about whether or not a reward was/is deserved. You either believe that it was in both cases or you believe it was not in both cases. If you go splitsies on it you are simply being hypocritical.

  • Go Lee County Oct 19, 11:54 a.m.

    to all you ABC'ers fan out there.. pot meet kettle !!!!
    NCAA history in North Carolina

    No matter what is going on with the University of North Carolina currently, the only other time that the Tar Heels have suffered NCAA sanctioning dates back to 1961. Even the Tar Heels' Tobacco Road rivals, the Duke Blue Devils, received enlightenment from the NCAA in 1972. In terms of receiving the highest frequency of scrutiny by the NCAA, the NC State Wolfpack has seen NCAA investigators in Raleigh quite a bit over the years (1954, 1956, 1972, 1983, 1989).

    Not to disappoint and avoid recognition of all members of the Big Four with the NCAA, Wake Forest has also received NCAA sanctions in 1983 and 1994. For the fans in Greenville, the NCAA does know the road to East Carolina University as well. The Pirates will be undergoing probation this year as a result of a decision announced in May, the school's first NCAA punishment since past sanctions handed down to the school back in 1979 and 1986.

    Thus, as the UNC case continues on, no fans of NCAA Division I schools in the state of North Carolina can waggle their fingers at one another to say that their school has not been touched by the NCAA sanctioning at some point in their history.

    Compare as you may, but blame must be shared and appreciated by all.

  • UNCTaproot Oct 19, 10:40 a.m.

    Here's how it's gonna go down. UNC will be one win away from a bowl game. John Swofford will... View More

    — Posted by YouGotThatRight

    every sentence, word, letter absolutely correct and true.

    — Posted by InTheNo

    BAAA hahahah

    The ABCER conspiracy theories are already in full swing, even with the Heels sitting at 1-5.

    Yep, The Swoff RUINS their day, each and every day of their miserable lives..

    BAAAA hahaha!!!

  • YouGotThatRight Oct 19, 1:21 a.m.

    I once had a friend who wanted to name a future daughter Mercedes Tudor.

  • InTheNo Oct 19, 12:03 a.m.

    Oh. I didn't mention Butch, Dickey, Dean and Thorpe because they're all conveniently not employed by UNCh any longer. How can the ACC not address fraud of such magnitude? Oh, because Swofford is right in the middle of it and has been for at least 20 years. The great news, and I've made this clear before, is that everyone is not in the Carolina Fat Cat Club and when you lie to them and withhold evidence and obstruct an investigation, they take it personally. That's why you now have your dept. "tutor" in court with more to follow. And just because you were too good to have done ANYTHING wrong. Not even a parking ticket. EVERY single one of the people I've mentioned and many more fat cats behind the scenes were willing to send a 20ish year old to court to cover themselves and more disgustingly - their story. Like I said, NEVER TOO LATE TO TELL THE TRUTH. Anyone? Roy, Dean, Butch, Dickie? Thorpe? You should know now that we're not stopping until this is done. How about you Caulton? Do you have a real story to report?

  • TThMFs Oct 19, 12:00 a.m.

    Guess who was the ACC regular season champion for Mens basketball in 1973...even though they... View More

    — Posted by heelsforever

    From a story posted right here at WRAL Sports back on Nov 8th of last year about David Thompson... View More

    — Posted by heelsforever

    If that is true...the ACC gave the trophy...NOT NCSU.

    — Posted by TThMFs

    So! Surely you have the ability to understand that if it is OK to reward a team on probation for... View More

    — Posted by heelsforever

    NCSU did NOT reward their team. The ACC did NOT reward ewenc with a divsion championship. B!tch to swoff. Speaking of "any level of integrity" ewenc has none.

    :(

  • InTheNo Oct 18, 11:46 p.m.

    Hey Bubba and Roy: It's NEVER TOO LATE TO TELL THE TRUTH. That's right, even with former employees of the UNCH Athletic Dept. on trial (and more to come). You can still save some face for all the people who got degrees from UNC without cheating (and those who will receive degrees in the future). Stop worrying about yourselves so much and think about UNCH and its employees, alumni and students IF YOU CAN. You selfish arrogant pieces. I look forward to reading about your indictments.

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