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  • BattlingBishop 5 Jan 1, 1:46 p.m.
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    Pro Bowl = Popularity Contest

    — Posted by BattlingBishop 5

    Very true......yet with any HOF resume the # of pro bowls and all star games leads the bio! By... View More

    — Posted by larrys080 .v1

    Sack numbers are good but it should be based on overall performance. If you get 12 sacks &... View More

    — Posted by BattlingBishop 5

    Wasn't disagreeing with you just pointing out what I think to be the reality of a HOF resume,... View More

    — Posted by larrys080 .v1

    Good point but as a fan, if I'm voting, I'm gonna check their overall numbers, team numbers/records, etc., & try to vote for the guy I think is most deserving.
    This isn't just about Peppers...we see this every year. Agree with you re: his career/resume but it should be about this season, not the past. IMO

  • larrys080 .v1 Jan 1, 1:41 p.m.
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    Stat comparison...

    Peppers - Pro Bowl selection this year

    Williams - Gennon Performance in Losses... View More

    — Posted by kato_karma.v4

    Pro Bowl = Popularity Contest

    — Posted by BattlingBishop 5

    Very true......yet with any HOF resume the # of pro bowls and all star games leads the bio! By... View More

    — Posted by larrys080 .v1

    Sack numbers are good but it should be based on overall performance. If you get 12 sacks &... View More

    — Posted by BattlingBishop 5

    Wasn't disagreeing with you just pointing out what I think to be the reality of a HOF resume, deserving or not. Sounds like to me MAYBE Peppers is respected more by his peers since they are involved in the voting. Also numbers don't always tell the entire story. Leadership is a quality that is held in high regard also. Maybe there are more weapons on Chicago and Peppers doesn't have to do quite as much as Williams. Don't know!

  • BattlingBishop 5 Jan 1, 1:37 p.m.
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    Stat comparison...

    Peppers - Pro Bowl selection this year

    Williams - Gennon Performance in Losses... View More

    — Posted by kato_karma.v4

    Pro Bowl = Popularity Contest

    — Posted by BattlingBishop 5

    Very true......yet with any HOF resume the # of pro bowls and all star games leads the bio! By... View More

    — Posted by larrys080 .v1

    Sack numbers are good but it should be based on overall performance. If you get 12 sacks & 30 tackles, is that really worthy of Pro Bowl consideration?

    Just an fyi...Kuechly led the NFL in tackles & didn't make it.

  • larrys080 .v1 Jan 1, 1:34 p.m.
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    Stat comparison...

    Peppers - Pro Bowl selection this year

    Williams - Gennon Performance in Losses... View More

    — Posted by kato_karma.v4

    Pro Bowl = Popularity Contest

    — Posted by BattlingBishop 5

    Very true......yet with any HOF resume the # of pro bowls and all star games leads the bio! By the way, I think Peppers has had a fantastic career. Could care less what Williams does.

  • BattlingBishop 5 Jan 1, 1:34 p.m.
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    Peppers wasn't even listed in the top 20 in tackles among D-lineman in the NFC. If you don't earn it, it doesn't matter, & he definitely didn't earn it.

    Fans also vote on MLB All-Stars & we all know how that goes.

  • kato_karma.v4 Jan 1, 1:27 p.m.
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    Voting comprised of 1/3 fans, 1/3 coaches, 1/3 players.

    OK...Peppers more popular with all 3 segments than Williams.

  • BattlingBishop 5 Jan 1, 1:20 p.m.
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    Stat comparison...

    Peppers - Pro Bowl selection this year

    Williams - Gennon Performance in Losses... View More

    — Posted by kato_karma.v4

    Pro Bowl = Popularity Contest

  • kato_karma.v4 Jan 1, 1:16 p.m.
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    Stat comparison...

    Peppers - Pro Bowl selection this year

    Williams - Gennon Performance in Losses Award candidate this year

  • BattlingBishop 5 Jan 1, 11:54 a.m.
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    Stat comparison...

    Peppers - 39 tkls (NFL rank - tied for 59th), 11.5 sacks (tied for 6th)

    Williams - 46 tkls (NFL rank - tied for 33rd), 10.5 sacks (tied for 12th)

    HC's for the Bears & Bills were canned recently & neither team made the playoffs. Given the hype associated with each player, neither player is living up to expectations. Sack production is good but overall, nothing to brag about.

    Nice gesture by Williams regarding the 09 truck & the Marines.

  • Wolfpackindahizzy4shizzy Jan 1, 10:18 a.m.
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    Envy....

    is what kind of emotion, kids????

    POWERFUL.... that's right :)

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