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STATE is still undefeated in their Division, with a win already tallied against Florida St.!!!

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  • RD n NC Nov 15, 6:39 p.m.
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    ^^No surprise you agreed with yourself.

  • Old Well Drinks Nov 15, 5:25 p.m.
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    .... so fear the turtle FSU or watch the PACK go to the ACC Championship game!

    — Posted by Chapel Hail

    Hate to tell you but State has 3 ACC loses, FSU has 1 loss. FSU would have to lose 2 more... View More

    — Posted by rherring23

    ... this should change, really, if a team goes undefeated in their Division then they should... View More

    — Posted by Chapel Hail

    uh, no...

    — Posted by duane11

    .... why not, especially this season, yes, agreed!

  • duane11 Nov 12, 10:26 p.m.
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    .... so fear the turtle FSU or watch the PACK go to the ACC Championship game!

    — Posted by Chapel Hail

    Hate to tell you but State has 3 ACC loses, FSU has 1 loss. FSU would have to lose 2 more... View More

    — Posted by rherring23

    ... this should change, really, if a team goes undefeated in their Division then they should... View More

    — Posted by Chapel Hail

    uh, no...

  • still heelman1973 Nov 12, 8:34 p.m.
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    ... yes, STATE remains undefeated in the Atlantic Division after thumping the Deacons, so really... View More

    — Posted by Chapel Hail

    Common sense says you should stay away from a sports forum.

  • Chapel Hail Nov 12, 5:54 p.m.
    Sports Legend

    .... so fear the turtle FSU or watch the PACK go to the ACC Championship game!

    — Posted by Chapel Hail

    Hate to tell you but State has 3 ACC loses, FSU has 1 loss. FSU would have to lose 2 more... View More

    — Posted by rherring23

    ... this should change, really, if a team goes undefeated in their Division then they should represent their Division in the ACC Championship game!

  • Chapel Hail Nov 12, 5:20 p.m.
    Sports Legend

    ... yes, STATE remains undefeated in the Atlantic Division after thumping the Deacons, so really if they do beat Clemson & BC to close out, then I think the ACC should recognize the fact that they won their Division outright, having gone undefeated in their Division, and so should justifiably represent their Division in the ACC Championship game, it's just common sense!!!!!

  • Hans Nov 8, 8:00 a.m.
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    We just need to win out. Clemson especially would be good and help the bowl prospects.

    — Posted by jmcdow2792

    Win out. I heard that one two games ago.

  • jmcdow2792 Nov 8, 5:50 a.m.
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    We just need to win out. Clemson especially would be good and help the bowl prospects.

  • rherring23 Nov 7, 10:15 p.m.
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    ... just think of the predicament for Debbie Yow, if STATE wins out, the Seminoles lose to the... View More

    — Posted by Chapel Hail

    Even if State wins out and Fla State loses to the Terps, State will still finish behind Fla... View More

    — Posted by still heelman1973

    ... wrong, flat wrong, STATE goes to the Championship with that scenario, because they beat... View More

    — Posted by Chapel Hail

    I'm a State fan, but he is right and you are totally wrong and must not know very much about... View More

    — Posted by rherring23

    If State played 9 conference games and went 6-0 in their division but lost 3 conference games to teams out of their division, their record would be 6-3 in their divisional standing. If FSU went 4-2 in the division but went 3-0 against the other conference teams, their record in the Atlantic Division would be 7-2 and they would be the Atlantic Division champions. Its really pretty simple.

  • rherring23 Nov 7, 10:11 p.m.
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    ... just think of the predicament for Debbie Yow, if STATE wins out, the Seminoles lose to the... View More

    — Posted by Chapel Hail

    Even if State wins out and Fla State loses to the Terps, State will still finish behind Fla... View More

    — Posted by still heelman1973

    ... wrong, flat wrong, STATE goes to the Championship with that scenario, because they beat... View More

    — Posted by Chapel Hail

    I'm a State fan, but he is right and you are totally wrong and must not know very much about sports. The ACC, just like all conferences, college, pro, high school, etc go by conference losses in their standings not divisional losses. Divisional losses are only used as one of the tie breakers. Look at the ACC Atlantic Division standings, FSU 5-1, Clemson 5-1, State 2-3. Nowhere will you see that State is undefeated in the division and that would only be mentioned as a tie breaker, and it would be the second tie breaker, the first would be head to head match ups, then the divisional record would come into play and that would only happen if 3 teams were tied. State and FSU tie, State wins due to head to head match up. FSU and Clemson tie, FSU wins due to tie breaker. For the divisional record to even come into play, State, FSU and Clemson would all 3 have to be tied, but even then at this point the divisional record still would not come into play because State would have to beat Clemson also to even stand a chance at a tie, so they would win by beating both teams, not by the divisional record. You would have to have State beating FSU, FSU beating Clemson, and Clemson beating State for them to go to the divisional record for the tie breaker and that's not going to happen because if Clemson beats State there is no chance of a tie. So in other words, State stands about as much of a chance as an ice cube in H*ll of winning the Atlantic Division. As I said, all conference, college, pro, etc work that way, they work that way in football, basketball, baseball, and about all sports that I know of. Just as if the Panthers would go undefeated in their division beating the Saints, Falcons, Bucs twice and go 6-0 in their division, if they lose to the other teams and finish 6-10, they are not going to any kind of playoff or championship game.

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