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  • Das Thorpedo Nov 19, 11:23 a.m.
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    OK, the word is that Maryland has voted to accept the B1G Ten invite. This isn't just... View More

    — Posted by Ken D.

    ACC is fine unless FSU or Miami decide to move to greener pastures as well. If so, the floodgates are open. If not, then this is a hiccup. Might even be ECU's chance to bolt from the c-usa.

  • sportznut628 Nov 19, 11:15 a.m.
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    already done.....for MD

  • Ken D. Nov 19, 11:15 a.m.
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    OK, the word is that Maryland has voted to accept the B1G Ten invite. This isn't just speculation. Is the ACC's dam about to burst?

  • cvholt87 Nov 18, 3:10 p.m.
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    FWIW Ken Plank, the CEO of Under Armour, cashed out $65 million in stock options last week.... View More

    — Posted by cvholt87

    If you think it's bad for the ACC, Rutgers was the last remaining Big East charter member for... View More

    — Posted by Ken D.

    Oh I agree, the Big East is just a stepping stone for schools looking to gain admittance to the traditional power conferences (Big10/ACC). I could actually see the ACC making a play for UConn if Maryland does make the move to the Big 10. Personally, I wouldn't mind a school like Louisville. Sure they're not on the Atlantic coast, but at this point I don't think it matters. They have solid football and basketball programs and are on par with Maryland academically.

  • Prof. Swahili Nov 18, 2:46 p.m.
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    I'll bet this chick will volunteer to help them pack

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QMcxcpOn6s&feature=player_detailpage

  • Ken D. Nov 18, 2:29 p.m.
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    FWIW Ken Plank, the CEO of Under Armour, cashed out $65 million in stock options last week.... View More

    — Posted by cvholt87

    If you think it's bad for the ACC, Rutgers was the last remaining Big East charter member for football. UConn was FCS when the league started and Temple was kicked out before rejoining.

  • cvholt87 Nov 18, 1:59 p.m.
    Sports Legend

    FWIW Ken Plank, the CEO of Under Armour, cashed out $65 million in stock options last week. Despite any mal feelings for their fans, it's never a good thing to see a charter member leave the conference.

  • Dr. Feelgood Nov 18, 1:16 p.m.
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    Let's say that the SEC, which does not seem to want Florida State and Clemson, for very good... View More

    — Posted by Ken D.

    Good stuff Ken except when I got the NCSU to the SEC...and I spit up my soda and shorted out my screen. OK, metaphorically speaking. Good brainstorming there. I gotta think Swoff is ahead of this...but the Big 10 is really pizzed about losing ND and they are probably trying to peel MD away just to exact a little revenge. The Rales bros. will pony up the $50M and the attorney fees, and just write it off on their taxes.

  • Ken D. Nov 18, 1:08 p.m.
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    Let's say that the SEC, which does not seem to want Florida State and Clemson, for very good commercial and competitive reasons, instead invites Miami and NC State. That gets them to 16 and adds two major markets. Let's further say that Notre Dame sees the handwriting on the wall and moves with Pitt to the Big Ten. Now there is blood in the ACC water, and the Big XII is likely to make a move.

    That league might decide to exercise the nuclear option, and go from 10 members to 16 in one spectacular move. They could invite FSU, Georgia Tech, Clemson, UNC, Duke and Virginia Tech. That gives them quality schools in Florida, Georgia, South Carolina, North Carolina, Virginia and West Virginia. Think ESPN might find that appealing?

    Do you think UNC and Duke could turn that down in order to stay in a crippled ACC? What kind of TV contract could they expect from ESPN if they did?

    Is all this far fetched? Maybe. But keep in mind that ESPN is throwing around numbers like $500 million a year for the rights to a football playoff. That causes schools to start thinking unthinkable things. The scenario I described above would put 60 top football schools together in four major conferences. An 8 team playoff - the top two in each conference - would include pretty much every realistic national championship contender. And the pie could be cut into much bigger slices.

    Don't think schools aren't doing the math right now.

  • Ken D. Nov 18, 12:51 p.m.
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    That's the speculation coming out of ESPN. It would be interesting if Maryland were to... View More

    — Posted by Ken D.

    Excellent point KD. If Md were to bolt, you can bet there would be a lengthy litigation insofar... View More

    — Posted by BenFranklin

    While Maryland's departure might seem relatively benign, and easily fixable, there is a bigger picture here that could actually threaten the existence of the ACC. That seemed unthinkable last week.

    What this move indicates is that, despite their recent protests to the contrary, the big dogs aren't ready to stop eating yet. Until this year, there were six BCS conferences. The Big East, a shadow of its former self, has dropped out, and we now speak about the five major conferences. But in reality, there are four 800 pound gorillas and one chimp. Guess who's the chimp? If those four go shopping, the ACC is the only conference which has prize plums to be picked.

    If the Big Ten wasn't done at 12 teams, do you think they are done at 14? I don't. And they have only four realistic targets left that meet their criteria for membership. Actually, two pairs of schools. One pair is Notre Dame and Pitt, while the second is UNC and Duke. If the second pair were to leave the ACC (along with Maryland), Notre Dame's recent alliance becomes much shakier. ND might see that threat and preemptively cast its lot with the Big Ten, taking Pitt with them creating a geographically logical eastern wing.

    Carolina and Duke should also be looking at threats from the south and the west. The SEC is also at 14, and adding two eastern schools would let them put Missouri back in the west where they belong. They have also heard the rumors about Clemson and Florida State having an interest in the Big XII. With the possibility of four more schools abandoning the ACC ship, Carolina and Duke may be opening some discussions of their own with the Big Ten, which would be their first choice among the Big Four.

    Maryland may seem like a small crack in the ACC armor, but it could spread.

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