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  • Dr. Feelgood Nov 30, 2012
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    I'd go as far as to say that he get's the most with the least. WF is lucky to have him, however after all the dismissals this season and all the jobs open, especially SEC, that he's not thinking about greener pastures.

  • 35 - 7 ROFL Nov 25, 2012
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    Duke was bound to get you one of these times and this year happened to be it. All around, the in-state ACC games for UNC this year were great. UNC won/lost all three by a play. The chips just didn't fall your way, it happens. In the end, it was a good first season for Fedora.

    Just for talking points, I think Grobe is one of the best coaches in the ACC. He seems to do the most with what he's got.

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  • Dr. Feelgood Nov 25, 2012
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    So we are only talking football? Yep, Duke finally got us and WF/Grobe just caught us napping. I'm chalking it up to Fedora getting the team on track as far as the focus thing goes.

    Vacation has turned you into quite the cynic!!!

  • dscarver Nov 24, 2012

    I think they went 3-2 vs. in-state competition.

  • Unc r Hypocrits Nov 24, 2012
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    Isn't that sort of like You Heels fans proclaiming to be the best team in the state, yet you went 1-2 against in-state competition?

    Just cause you "claim" something doesn't make it so. :-)

  • NCSU72 Nov 24, 2012
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    Bravo, swedishchef!

  • Dr. Feelgood Nov 23, 2012
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    We are OK with the University, now obsessed over spanking Red does get a bit mundane but is still loads of fun.

  • Dr. Feelgood Nov 23, 2012
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    Yeah, everyone knows that. I didn't hang Edsall on her, thats on the President and the new AD. Them letting Franklin get away after running Claiborne away, then Ross shows that the folks behind the scene there are incompetent on a good day. GW was GWs worst enemy. He can't hang his failures on Yow.

  • WolfPackInTheHizzouse Nov 23, 2012
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    LOL at irony and hole fans.

    CLASSIC thread!

  • FAN72 Nov 23, 2012
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    And yet here you are on the NC State forum!

  • swedish.chef Nov 23, 2012

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    I agree with you 100%, but it begs the question: Why do so many of you obsess over us? I mean, PackNoPride named himself after our school and spends all his time on our board, but you're gonna try and tell me he's not preoccupied with State? That's like a kid calling himself Skywalker, then swearing up and down he's not obsessed with Star Wars...

  • 35 - 7 ROFL Nov 23, 2012
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    Regarding the coaching change, Yow was not responsible for the Edsall hire. Yow accepted the AD position at NCSU on June 25th, 2010 and Fridgen didn't resign until after the 2010 season. If Yow would have stayed on at Maryland she would have hired James Franklin as head coach (Yow named Franklin coach-in-waiting in 2008). Needless to say, Maryland would be in a much better position had she stayed.

    In basketball, Yow and Gary obviously did not get along. Gary was not much for taking barking orders by a woman, especially one as involved as Yow. However, one of Yow's biggest gripes about Gary was his recruiting. The DC market is home to a vast amount of high school basketball talent (especially AAU) and Gary, plain and simple, hated the AAU system. As AAU's role in college basketball grew, Gary's refusal to develop any relationships with the "coaches" resulted in a number of highly talented players leaving his own backyard to play elsewhere. This same inability to recruit top talent is what has put O'Brien and Yow at odds. I have a few stories I'll post once the O'Brien era has passed, whenever that may be.

  • Dr. Feelgood Nov 23, 2012
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    Well said Jbrd, however Yow has to own the mis-calculation of the payback for the renovations at Byrd Stadium, which publicly everyone has admitted is pulling MD down into the sea of Red Ink. It is what it is, nothing personal. One persons twist, is another persons valid explanation. As far as the coaching goes, MD has not been relevant in football since the early/mid 80s and Edsall will not turn it around, so no one can hang that on DY. GW was a great coach, but was he HOF caliber? No, not IMHTHO. Go back and re-read her scorcher to the BOT about NCSU being 11th in the league in collecting money from boosters. That agian, is a fact and is where the Pack is. It's up to NCSU alumni and boosters to give, and give generously. As many on here love to hate on the Heels, they have deep pockets and they give very generously. Same for Duke, even though private, the endowments are like a fat roasted pig. Yow knows as well as anyone, you can't do but so much on a shoestring budget, and the Pack needs a much better cash inflow if they want to play big time football.

  • larrys080 Nov 23, 2012
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    ABS fans??? Now thats a good one!!! Lol! Only the most respected universities like UNC have fanbases that dedicate their entire life to obssessing over them. It also requires winning at a high level! SCC has failed at this sir!! Keep dreaming though!

  • WolfPackInTheHizzouse Nov 23, 2012
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    She can't stand herself, and thus... Portrays herself as a non lover of pastels.

    Embarrassment, will do that to a girl.

  • rherring23 Nov 23, 2012
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    Not unless he has looked in the mirror.

  • rherring23 Nov 23, 2012
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    LOL, Says the UNC fan on the State forum. I really don't think I have been in The Wolves Den anytime lately that you were not on here.

  • Wolfpackalypse Now Nov 22, 2012
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    Case closed. Debbie Yow was/is a great AD, and any doubt of that solely arose from the fact that Gary Williams was/is a total putz.

  • FAN72 Nov 22, 2012
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    Really? Guess you haven't checked out the trolls on this forum!

  • TsKaMF Nov 22, 2012
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    At Maryland, Yow became the first female athletic director at any Atlantic Coast Conference school. Under Yow, the Maryland athletics department balanced its annual budgets, which had not been done in the previous decade and the department's debt was reduced from $51 million to $5.6 million. From 1994 to 2010, the school's athletic teams captured twenty national championships. Seventeen were in women's sports: women's lacrosse (8), field hockey (4), competitive cheer (4), and women's basketball (1). Three championships were claimed by two men's teams. Maryland men's basketball secured the 2002 title and men's soccer captured the 2005 and 2008 College Cups. U.S. News & World Report and Sports Illustrated ranked the Maryland athletics program in the nation's top 20 during Yow's tenure. In 2008, her salary was $365,925.00 according to public records.
    Yow reportedly had a rocky relationship with Maryland men's basketball coach Gary Williams. In January 2009, the basketball team struggled early in its season, which led to Williams publicly trading barbs about recruiting with associate athletic director Kathy Worthington. In February, Yow issued a statement of support for Williams. During the 2009 row, John Feinstein wrote in The Washington Post, "Debbie Yow didn't hire Gary Williams. She can't take any credit for the program he built nor should she take any of the blame for its recent struggles." He added, "Does [Williams] get along with Debbie Yow? No, everyone knows that..."
    Barry Gossett, the number one donor to Maryland athletics summarized the progress in Maryland athletics during Yow's tenure, "She inherited a difficult situation when she came in as far the debt and a lot of programs that were under-performing. She was able to make some necessary changes in staff, and she has really put a new face on the athletic department. She accepted the challenge as the school improved it's rankings across the board... She has done a great job." Head women's basketball coach Brenda Frese [National Championship coach in 2006] said, "I think the biggest strength for Debbie is that from top to bottom, she knows how to run a department and allows every unit and every coaching staff member to be successful." Football coach Ralph Friedgen called Yow's accomplishments as AD at Maryland, "unprecedented."
    Mike Ashley observed, "Yow's sixteen years at the helm of the program represented the longest tenure for a Maryland athletic director since legendary Curley Byrd ran the program from 1915-1935 before coming university president."

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  • PacknoPride Nov 22, 2012
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    there's no such thing as an ABS'er. Don' flatter yourself.

  • FAN72 Nov 22, 2012
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    Some people (who hate NC State) continue to twist the facts concerning Ms Yow and her time at Maryland. It was the coaching staff who hated taking orders from a woman that led to Maryland's downfall. Everyone in Maryland knows it and eventually even those in Durham will realize it too. Her leadership at NC State has been decisive and evident. Many ABS'ers laughed at her when she hired Coach Gottfried and his staff. Just look how that hire has turned the basketball program around through positive coaching and recruiting. I haven't noticed any drop off in booster support nor a mass exodus of coaches who don't believe they can work with/for her.

  • earnestjbats Nov 21, 2012
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    Lets look at the facts. Ms yow was at Maryland when they got their one and only national championship in anything. In the short time she has been at state every department under her has improved greatly. great improvement. Thank you ms. Yow nuff said

  • rking81 Nov 20, 2012
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    The only thing Debbie Yow needs to do now is Break out the Broom and finish cleaning House. Sweeping O'brien out the door. We need a young Passionate Coach! Like the Guy at Vanderbilt. youknowhatimean!! Dude!

  • No Party Affiliate Nov 20, 2012
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    You financially ruined Maryland allowing them to move to greenier pastures of the Big 10. Well played. If you were here, I would give you a big hug!

    Don't worry State fans, Yow will do the same to you. Hopefully you will get a SEC invite.

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