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The last thing TOB thought of before Yow pulled the trigger

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  • Jacob Tongues Anus Ewwww Nov 26, 2012
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    Then why did you guys fire John Bunting? Or Matt D'oh?

  • VT1994Hokie Nov 26, 2012
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    Darn great youtube Dr. FG. I loved this one.

  • tebow39 Nov 26, 2012
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    wasnt pointing out good coach or bad coach. Just the way coaches are treated at state. Win now or go home idea is just not going to work

  • WolfPackInTheHizzouse Nov 26, 2012
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    FAIL.
    your link mentioned NOTHING of TOB's dismissal.

    tough break, guard.

  • DooksucksV3 Nov 26, 2012
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tH2w6Oxx0kQ

    It was the wind.

  • Jacob Tongues Anus Ewwww Nov 26, 2012
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    You think Lowe and Amato were good coaches??????
    Have you been drinking this morning, boy?

  • tebow39 Nov 26, 2012
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    Cant blame them if they did. I think the admin at state thinks that if you hire a coach that he is going to win right of they bat. But to BUILD a program takes time it is not like a light switch click your good then click we suck.

  • still heelman1973 Nov 26, 2012
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    For the sake of the few decent State fans out there, I hope the team and the lame-duck coaches don't tank the bowl game like ours did last year.

  • tebow39 Nov 26, 2012
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    The last thing he thought is WHY oh Why did I come here. State has a reputation for firing coaches even though they are successful. Just look at past history Lowe,Sendek,Chuckie A. State either beats UNC or coaches get fired. And Now that Yow is running things it will get worse just reference Maryland where she managed to run off one of the best college bball coaches around. State is bowl bound but not with the coach who got them there. Please tell me why should the players care if they win or lose??

  • WolfPackInTheHizzouse Nov 26, 2012
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    yup.

    DY conveyed as much.

    can't win with an empty (void of talent) poke.

  • kato_karma.v3 Nov 26, 2012
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    LOL.

    Time sure did tell (after two seasons of his own recruits).

  • hovis Nov 26, 2012
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    The close call against Maryland and the blowout by Virginia were much worse reflections on TOB. I do not think that beating UNC would have made that completely go away.
    Recruiting was probably as large a reason as the win loss record.

  • WolfPackInTheHizzouse Nov 26, 2012
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    Link???

    thanks.

  • still heelman1973 Nov 26, 2012
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    That one (whenever it was) may have hurt Opie, but the loss to THE FLAGSHIP on 10/27 is the one that did him in.

  • Wolfpackalypse Now Nov 26, 2012
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    I agree that the loss to Orange County Remedial School was not the sole cause of his firing, but they are certainly lumped in with other teams we should not have lost to.

  • kato_karma.v3 Nov 26, 2012
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    LOL.

    Mediocrity was fine with "ya'll", but not Debbie.

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  • WolfPackInTheHizzouse Nov 26, 2012
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    this article....

    http://blogs.newsobserver.com/accnow/obrien-out-at-nc-state

    accurately points to last year's loss to BC and this year's loss to UVA as the TRUE indicators of, big trouble in Raleighwood... "consistency", "o-line play", and "discipline" are all supposed strongsuits of TOB, and all of those showed signs of slipping in the previous two seasons..... if he can't at least deliver on those controllables, he can't likely get you to the next level.

    genius of a man, limited as a Head football coach.

    thanks again, TOB... you're clearly leaving the program in a far better place than it was when you arrived.

  • kato_karma.v3 Nov 26, 2012
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    Mehh...

    DENIAL is what a majority of wolffie fans have lived for over a year now.

    TRUTH is that TOB's job was lost last year by mid-season and the Maryland miracle only prolonged the inevitable.

    Those wins against UNC were merely a smoke screen for the mediocrity that TOBy brought and sustained at Western Blvd. U.

    Gio merely escalated Yow's decision-making timeframe (from post-bowl to pre-bowl).

  • WolfPackInTheHizzouse Nov 26, 2012
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    they far prefer to live in DENIAL.

    it's a carolina thing.

    embarrassingly enough.

  • Unc r Hypocrits Nov 26, 2012
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    Read all the posts by your brethren and you'll get your "link."

  • Unc r Hypocrits Nov 26, 2012
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    Yep.

  • WolfPackInTheHizzouse Nov 26, 2012
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    LOL
    look around, pansy... how many MORE posts about "the unc loss costing TOB his job", need to be posted by your fellow PANSIES, for you to "catch on"???

    hang in there, pansy.

    LINK to "losing to unc" being the only or even main reason TOB was shown the door...??

    hurry back, pansy!

    LMBAO!!!

  • Banned by Sissies Nov 25, 2012
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    OUCH!!!

  • Banned by Sissies Nov 25, 2012
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    Yes, yes, and yes. But I would give State more credit, I bet with the 3 gimmies, they win 5 next year. Pack Pride ya know.

  • SilentSam Nov 25, 2012
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    Link?

  • Banned by Sissies Nov 25, 2012
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    Worry much? LOL!!!

  • still heelman1973 Nov 25, 2012
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    You mean like she didn't settle for her dear friend who was available all along, and who got the job only after 6-8 others turned her down?

  • WolfPackInTheHizzouse Nov 25, 2012
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    U can tell it irks pansy fans that DY won't settle.

    Rubs 'em wrong, clearly.

    Why else would they even take the time/effort to care/post about it???

    Color me loving it!!!

  • jaques Nov 25, 2012
    Rookie

    yow's decision is very short sighted.

    and yes, gio got this tool bag fired.

    and now his homer fan base is freaked out.

    big time.

    season tickets! that was a reason to fire a guy. in the biggest recession in years? different opinion on how to run a football program? from a legacy hire coming from a destroyed maryland program? man o man this is gonna get better every day. forget the tutors and african studies . . . state is 2-10 next year. tops.

  • Jacob Tongues Anus Ewwww Nov 25, 2012
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    Indeed. We all know it was UVA on homecoming weekend. unc-who? wishes it was them.

  • WolfPackInTheHizzouse Nov 25, 2012
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    hole fans want like anything, for the loss to the holes to be THE REASON...

    it kills them that it's not.

  • Banned by Sissies Nov 25, 2012
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    That's a nice twist on why TOB got canned. But really, the bottom line, dollar, and sinker is Gio. Guess it's no big deal either way, but I bet you a dollar to a doughnut that if they won just that 1 game, we wouldn't be having this covo.

  • hovis Nov 25, 2012
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    TOBy would likely not have been back even if he did not kick to Gio. Everyone would agree his recruiting was par/subpar. Lack of a high point season(s) caused people in control to question the programs' direction.

    Recruiting would have aided TOB two ways. One,if the current class was good it would have given TOB's bosses the ability to say the future will be brighter. Two, if the class was good management would be less likely to fire him out of hand as it basically puts your recruits straight back in the mix.

    For the record his recruiting was not terrible, but as far as the immediate future is concerned he did not recruit quarterbacks as should be expected in the last two years leaving a hole that the ad probably questioned.

  • Dr. Feelgood Nov 25, 2012
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    "She ******* hates me..."

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYE4CVhVkhw

  • Banned by Sissies Nov 25, 2012
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    Provided they won.

  • still heelman1973 Nov 25, 2012
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    ^ He always managed to lose some games that he had no business losing (and usually win one per year that he had no business winning), but as long as he beat UNC he was safe. One loss to UNC was what knocked him off that tightrope he was walking. If he hadn't kicked to Gio, he'd be back next year.

  • early exit Roy Nov 25, 2012
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    Dream on. You lose 1 out of 6 years and that killed him. What killed him was losing to uva, plus all the losses to teams he was suppose to beat, like maryland. Unc people would like to believe that was the reason. DY has been after him since she came to state. He doesn't recruit well but what he did recruit, two & three stars, were good enough to beat your four & five stars, that didn't know what a paragraph was nor had ever read a book. There is a major flaw in your thought process.

  • Banned by Sissies Nov 25, 2012
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    Gio. "That kid ruined my free ride"

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