Does Doeren's contract leave him available to Wisconsin?

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  • hovis Dec 7, 2012
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    Here is some reality for everyone to share. If either coach is successfull in the next one to three years he will leave. While state and unc are both good jobs they are not likely to be the final destination for either coach if the big schools call. Always has been, always will be.

  • chapelthrillv2 Dec 7, 2012
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    Come on Biff, you know better than to confuse them with facts and reason. They hate that!

  • Metta World Biff Dec 7, 2012
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    Back on topic. No way Doeren leaves State after one week.

  • Metta World Biff Dec 7, 2012
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    My guess is that UT spoke with Fedora's agent and floated a salary number. Fedora says he isn't interested. They part ways with no real offer and no real rejection. But Fedora could think he turned down a possible huge payday. Stress on "possible". And if Fedora made that comment to his mentor that was tweeted then I figure it's just two coaches talking without worrying about the finer technicalities of if the offer was formal.
    Same thing with Yow and basketball candidates. Those phantom offers never happened. But numbers were certainly discussed.
    An example of a real offer and rejection is what the whole world just saw with my Colorado Buffs. Offer publicly on the table...offered publicly denied. Ouch.

  • Sassie Licks Penis Dec 7, 2012
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    Southern Miss =/= major experience, so take those last two items off the list right now.

    What years was he Florda and Ok State OC?

  • Metta World Biff Dec 7, 2012
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    Florida OC, Oklahoma State OC, Southern Miss HC and Conference USA Champion. Minor experience indeed.

  • TruthBKnown Banned Again01 Dec 7, 2012
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    Mine.

  • TruthBKnown Banned Again01 Dec 7, 2012
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    No doubt. Tennessee was probably letting people know the dollar amounts that would be involved in the hire. Absolutely. But for the Hat to have turned down the money, he would have to be offered the money. And for him to be offered the money, he would have had to interview for it.

    Now, he may have turned down the interview. But that is not the same as turning down the offer.

  • Metta World Biff Dec 7, 2012
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    Is this your opinion or his?

  • Metta World Biff Dec 7, 2012
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    A conversation between an AD and a coaches agent discussing potential salary is not an interview. So, there was an "offer" on the table but Fedora would still have to 1) show up at the table and 2) land the job. He did neither. So yes, a big "offer" was floated but went nowhere because Fedora did not reciprocate. It would be a dereliction of duty if his agent didn't have that discussion if requested by UT's AD.
    Some people want to this to be a world of absolutes but it's not. No different than when people accused Yow of "offering" and being "rejected" by XYZ basketball coaches last year.

  • TruthBKnown Banned Again01 Dec 7, 2012
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    I've never had an opponent in a debate actually argue for MY position like that. :)

  • Unc r Hypocrits Dec 7, 2012
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    I guess Common Sense isn't as common as I thought it was.

  • TruthBKnown Banned Again01 Dec 7, 2012
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    E-X-A-C-T-L-Y.

  • SportznutV2.0 Dec 7, 2012
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    you have to excuse that bunch in Raleigh....they have never had a coach who another program wanted so they don't know the ins and outs of these kind of rumors

  • Sassie Licks Penis Dec 7, 2012
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    I'm going to go ahead and throw my hat into the ring for Apple CEO as well. Golden parachute here I come!

  • chapelthrillv2 Dec 7, 2012
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    Why would he interview for a job that he had no interest in taking?

    LOL!

  • TruthBKnown Banned Again01 Dec 7, 2012
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    Fire extinguished.

    LOL

  • TruthBKnown Banned Again01 Dec 7, 2012
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    The closest this came to being a rumor was people saying he would have been an ideal target for Wisconsin...

    IF he had not already been signed up at NC State.

    You can safely stop trying to get this rumor started now. We understand your feelings are hurt because you got punked over the Fedora to Tennessee rumor. At least THAT one had legs.

  • TruthBKnown Banned Again01 Dec 7, 2012
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    There is nothing curious about this.

    First of all, there is not even a RUMOR of Doeren to Wiscy.

    Secondly, what part of "a source close to Doeren" don't you understand? Dave is out on the recruiting trail. He doesn't even have a rumor to which to respond. But a couple of days ago, a source CLOSE TO DAVE did just that.

    It's closed.

    It was funny even when you guys tried to start this rumor back when you did. It's even more funny to see you trying to start it AGAIN.

  • SportznutV2.0 Dec 7, 2012
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    We have never heard from Doeren/NC State......no official word from either.....very curious....

  • TruthBKnown Banned Again01 Dec 7, 2012
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    No, it looked like he was a candidate HAD HE NOT ALREADY BEEN TAKEN.

    No doubt they'd have gone after him if he were still at NIU. But they know there is no point in even trying now. He wouldn't go, and they aren't going to pay the millions it would take to buy out his contract at State.

    This was already covered TWO days ago.

    http://espn.go.com/blog/ncfnation/post/_/id/73486/dave-doeren-not-a-candidate-at-wisconsinExcerpt:
    "Former Wisconsin defensive coordinator Dave Doeren isn't a candidate to return as the Badgers' next head coach, a source close to Doeren told ESPN.com on Wednesday morning."

  • SportznutV2.0 Dec 7, 2012
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    http://wisconsin.scout.com/2/1246504.htmlhe surely looked like a candidate 3 days ago

  • TruthBKnown Banned Again01 Dec 7, 2012
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    Because there is no reason to give one?

    There is not even a rumor that Wisconsin even wants him.

    By your logic, I guess I should go ahead and let Apple, Inc. know that I'm not interested in their CEO position.

    You know, I may as well get ahead of the game and all, before the rumors start. LOL

  • SportznutV2.0 Dec 7, 2012
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    http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/8720928/barry-alvarez-says-paul-chryst-not-candidate-wisconsin-badgersSo no statement from Doeren or NC STate that Doeren is not a candidate.......hmmm wonder why>?

  • TruthBKnown Banned Again01 Dec 7, 2012
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    So he DID interview.

  • TruthBKnown Banned Again01 Dec 7, 2012
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    Fedora doesn't scare me in the slightest. His defense was horrible, and his gimmick offense won't fool anyone beyond his first season. I'm glad to see him stay.

  • TruthBKnown Banned Again01 Dec 7, 2012
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    Because he's learned he was spoon fed a bunch a garbage when he was hired. And quite possibly because he knows more punishment is coming.

  • Unc r Hypocrits Dec 7, 2012
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    Anyone, anywhere, can get out of a contract, anytime they want to leave. Go troll elsewhere, why don't you?

  • Sassie Licks Penis Dec 7, 2012
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    Is your name Eeyore? How about you take your gibberish somewhere where it will be appreciated. I'm guessing the emo scene might like you.

  • weakened back Dec 7, 2012
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    yes but it would cost wisc 2 cows and 3 pigs.

  • Hans Dec 7, 2012
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    Is your name TBK? How about you take your gibberish somewhere where it will be appreciated. I have no idea where that would be, though.

  • SportznutV2.0 Dec 7, 2012
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    BOOOM POWWWWWWW SLAP stop the fight ......LOL

  • chapelthrillv2 Dec 7, 2012
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    "Asked Reedy abt his fmr asst UNC HC Larry Fedora.Says Fedora called him yest and said 'I turned down more money than I ever thought I'd see' "

  • chapelthrillv2 Dec 7, 2012
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    Link?

    Sure thing!

    https://twitter.com/SEisbergWCIVFacts...aren't they great?

  • WolfPackInTheHizzouse Dec 7, 2012
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    Link???

    Lying... it's a "flagship" kind of thing.

  • chapelthrillv2 Dec 7, 2012
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    Poor wuffies...they can only dream that Fedora is leaving, when in reality he turned down more money than he's ever seen in order to stay at Carolina.

    Loyalty...its a "flagship" kind of thing.

  • SportznutV2.0 Dec 7, 2012
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    Coach Fed had a chance to go anywhere he wanted last year...I know he scares you....
    however I do know for sure that CJL thinks he made a mistake.....

    how does the 2nd Round sound Calvin?
    http://nbadraft.net/2013mock_draft

  • WolfPackInTheHizzouse Dec 7, 2012
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    hard to say exactly why the hat wants out.. my guess is the list is rather long... but, near the top is likely the "culture of corruption", that he wants no part of.

    I wouldn't blame 'em a bit.

  • Hans Dec 7, 2012
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    Why does he want out, TBK?

  • TruthBKnown Banned Again01 Dec 7, 2012
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    Seriously?

    You're seriously still asking this question?

    This topic should have been closed quicker than your "CJL to the NBA" topics from the past. LOL

    Maybe you should start a "Fedora to Louisville" topic. Dude didn't get the Tennessee job, but make no mistake. He wants out at Carolina, and asap.

  • WolfPackInTheHizzouse Dec 7, 2012
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    LOL

    hope everlasting.

    too cute.

  • still heelman1973 Dec 7, 2012
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    That was just wishful thinking.

  • SportznutV2.0 Dec 7, 2012
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    TBK? what do you think...you had a lot to say about the fedora situation? :)

  • Sassie Licks Penis Dec 7, 2012
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    Same could be said about Sombrero...except the major college experience.

  • SportznutV2.0 Dec 7, 2012
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    Looks like Yow low balled Doeren, or maybe he took a low salary intentionally???
    I see that Alvarez will coach the bowl in order to give himself some time to find the right coach.

    Doeren is from Kansas and spent four good years in Wisc, has a lot of contacts there. The buyout is peanuts. I think if Alvarez wants him, he can get him. I would not be surprised to see Doeren going back to a familiar place for a lot more money. He has no loyalty to NC State at this point.

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