RE: Question about the Doeren timeline.
Let's be clear. State is not a rebuilding job. It's a program that needs a shot in the arm to get over the hump. They have gone bowling for several years in a row. What Mike MacIntyre at Colorado is facing is a rebuilding job. Same with the California and Purdue jobs.
Maybe they will hit a bump in the road as they change systems. There is a chance that the perceived lack of talent is exposed when not being used the way TOB would use it. But, maybe the new staff gets more out them.
In no way would I concede this to be a rebuilding year. But rather a move to push the program to the next level. If they take a step back for a year or two while the new staff accumulates their desired personnel then so be it. State is on firm footing in almost every aspect that matters (financially, fan support, facilities, fertile local recruiting, and a roster full of guys that have gone to bowls every year). Nope, not rebuilding. Just making a push.
RE: Question about the Doeren timeline.
Let's be clear. State is not a rebuilding job. It's a program that needs a shot in the arm to get over the hump. They have gone bowling for several years in a row. What Mike MacIntyre at Colorado is facing is a rebuilding job. Same with the California and Purdue jobs.
Maybe they will hit a bump in the road as they change systems. There is a chance that the perceived lack of talent is exposed when not being used the way TOB would use it. But, maybe the new staff gets more out them.
In no way would I concede this to be a rebuilding year. But rather a move to push the program to the next level. If they take a step back for a year or two while the new staff accumulates their desired personnel then so be it. State is on firm footing in almost every aspect that matters (financially, fan support, facilities, fertile local recruiting, and a roster full of guys that have gone to bowls every year). Nope, not rebuilding. Just making a push.
- Posted by Metta World Biff
We have no proven QB.
This is a rebuilding year.
It's not a trainwreck. But it's a rebuilding year. But the possibility is there that we do have enough left in the cupboard to have a decent year. We just can't plan on that for sure. New coach, new system, somewhat depleted lineup... it's a rebuilding year.
RE: Question about the Doeren timeline.
I think too much credit has and is being given to Glennon. He is NOT a Philip Rivers nor a Matty Ice. I saw all three of them at CF. Glennon has not shown me that he is a winner and I do not think he will make it as a starting pro. Unfortunately, TOB bet his job on Glennon and lost. If that is all that has to be replaced, I think we should be at least as well off or better next year. Do like Maryland, find some defensive back who played QB in high school.
RE: Question about the Doeren timeline.
TOB didn't bet his job on Glennon. Who else was he going to start? Glennon was all he had available.
RE: Question about the Doeren timeline.
Let's be clear. State is not a rebuilding job. It's a program that needs a shot in the arm to get over the hump. They have gone bowling for several years in a row. What Mike MacIntyre at Colorado is facing is a rebuilding job. Same with the California and Purdue jobs.
Maybe they will hit a bump in the road as they change systems. There is a chance that the perceived lack of talent is exposed when not being used the way TOB would use it. But, maybe the new staff gets more out them.
In no way would I concede this to be a rebuilding year. But rather a move to push the program to the next level. If they take a step back for a year or two while the new staff accumulates their desired personnel then so be it. State is on firm footing in almost every aspect that matters (financially, fan support, facilities, fertile local recruiting, and a roster full of guys that have gone to bowls every year). Nope, not rebuilding. Just making a push.
- Posted by Metta World Biff
We have no proven QB.
This is a rebuilding year.
It's not a trainwreck. But it's a rebuilding year. But the possibility is there that we do have enough left in the cupboard to have a decent year. We just can't plan on that for sure. New coach, new system, somewhat depleted lineup... it's a rebuilding year.
I am going to side with TBK here. It is a rebuilding year. Forget Glennon and Amerson. Wolff and most of the experienced d line. Just about the whole o line. The lines are where games are won and lost. Great qbs cannot succeed if they get hurried out if the pocket often. It will take the people who fill these positions a while to get acclimated, even if they are talented. It is rare for a player to excel in their first year. These players will not only be new starters, they will be learning to do new things in the new system also. To say it is not a rebuilding year is...uh...."optimistic."
RE: Question about the Doeren timeline.
I think too much credit has and is being given to Glennon. He is NOT a Philip Rivers nor a Matty Ice. I saw all three of them at CF. Glennon has not shown me that he is a winner and I do not think he will make it as a starting pro. Unfortunately, TOB bet his job on Glennon and lost. If that is all that has to be replaced, I think we should be at least as well off or better next year. Do like Maryland, find some defensive back who played QB in high school.
- Posted by jmcdow2792
NFL analysts disagree with you. Good chance he'll be the first QB drafted. Glennon is a winner. He just didn't have enough help in that regard. Can't do it alone (ask Rivers about that).
When Glennon gets to workout for the pro scouts, I believe he's going to shine. He's got a rocket for an arm, and puts the ball where he needs to. We had a LOT of dropped passes this year. If we had cut our drops in half against Carolina, we win that game by two TDs. NFL receivers won't drop them the way our college receivers did.
RE: Question about the Doeren timeline.
Let's be clear. State is not a rebuilding job. It's a program that needs a shot in the arm to get over the hump. They have gone bowling for several years in a row. What Mike MacIntyre at Colorado is facing is a rebuilding job. Same with the California and Purdue jobs.
Maybe they will hit a bump in the road as they change systems. There is a chance that the perceived lack of talent is exposed when not being used the way TOB would use it. But, maybe the new staff gets more out them.
In no way would I concede this to be a rebuilding year. But rather a move to push the program to the next level. If they take a step back for a year or two while the new staff accumulates their desired personnel then so be it. State is on firm footing in almost every aspect that matters (financially, fan support, facilities, fertile local recruiting, and a roster full of guys that have gone to bowls every year). Nope, not rebuilding. Just making a push.
- Posted by Metta World Biff
We have no proven QB.
This is a rebuilding year.
It's not a trainwreck. But it's a rebuilding year. But the possibility is there that we do have enough left in the cupboard to have a decent year. We just can't plan on that for sure. New coach, new system, somewhat depleted lineup... it's a rebuilding year.
Excuses....excuses....excuses. Everybody wanted production out of the gste with Fedora and he provided it. As usual state kollege fans will brag on their future while setting up excuses for their future. Pitiful and sad to be a state kollege fan. And TBK is a dingy! Tries to sound wise but knows jack squat!
RE: Question about the Doeren timeline.
Let's be clear. State is not a rebuilding job. It's a program that needs a shot in the arm to get over the hump. They have gone bowling for several years in a row. What Mike MacIntyre at Colorado is facing is a rebuilding job. Same with the California and Purdue jobs.
Maybe they will hit a bump in the road as they change systems. There is a chance that the perceived lack of talent is exposed when not being used the way TOB would use it. But, maybe the new staff gets more out them.
In no way would I concede this to be a rebuilding year. But rather a move to push the program to the next level. If they take a step back for a year or two while the new staff accumulates their desired personnel then so be it. State is on firm footing in almost every aspect that matters (financially, fan support, facilities, fertile local recruiting, and a roster full of guys that have gone to bowls every year). Nope, not rebuilding. Just making a push.
- Posted by Metta World Biff
We have no proven QB.
This is a rebuilding year.
It's not a trainwreck. But it's a rebuilding year. But the possibility is there that we do have enough left in the cupboard to have a decent year. We just can't plan on that for sure. New coach, new system, somewhat depleted lineup... it's a rebuilding year.
Excuses....excuses....excuses. Everybody wanted production out of the gste with Fedora and he provided it. As usual state kollege fans will brag on their future while setting up excuses for their future. Pitiful and sad to be a state kollege fan. And TBK is a dingy! Tries to sound wise but knows jack squat!
In fairness, I would not have been too surprised if Fedora had lost one or two more games than he did. He did a very good job no matter what anyone says otherwise. NC State is going forward with a few less cards in the deck though.
RE: Question about the Doeren timeline.
I think too much credit has and is being given to Glennon. He is NOT a Philip Rivers nor a Matty Ice. I saw all three of them at CF. Glennon has not shown me that he is a winner and I do not think he will make it as a starting pro. Unfortunately, TOB bet his job on Glennon and lost. If that is all that has to be replaced, I think we should be at least as well off or better next year. Do like Maryland, find some defensive back who played QB in high school.
- Posted by jmcdow2792
NFL analysts disagree with you. Good chance he'll be the first QB drafted. Glennon is a winner. He just didn't have enough help in that regard. Can't do it alone (ask Rivers about that).
When Glennon gets to workout for the pro scouts, I believe he's going to shine. He's got a rocket for an arm, and puts the ball where he needs to. We had a LOT of dropped passes this year. If we had cut our drops in half against Carolina, we win that game by two TDs. NFL receivers won't drop them the way our college receivers did.
Rivers has "it". RW has "it". Matt Ryan has "it". I haven't seen "it" with Glennon. We will find out in the pros.
RE: Question about the Doeren timeline.
I think too much credit has and is being given to Glennon. He is NOT a Philip Rivers nor a Matty Ice. I saw all three of them at CF. Glennon has not shown me that he is a winner and I do not think he will make it as a starting pro. Unfortunately, TOB bet his job on Glennon and lost. If that is all that has to be replaced, I think we should be at least as well off or better next year. Do like Maryland, find some defensive back who played QB in high school.
- Posted by jmcdow2792
NFL analysts disagree with you. Good chance he'll be the first QB drafted. Glennon is a winner. He just didn't have enough help in that regard. Can't do it alone (ask Rivers about that).
When Glennon gets to workout for the pro scouts, I believe he's going to shine. He's got a rocket for an arm, and puts the ball where he needs to. We had a LOT of dropped passes this year. If we had cut our drops in half against Carolina, we win that game by two TDs. NFL receivers won't drop them the way our college receivers did.
Rivers has "it". RW has "it". Matt Ryan has "it". I haven't seen "it" with Glennon. We will find out in the pros.
Get ready to get blasted - however you are absolutely correct - Glennon is sporadic at best - making some really nice throws - but then coming back and missing wide open wr's - against weak secondarys like UNC he was Unitas - better teams shut him down- was it his OL ? Lack of RBs ?Lack of Mobility? - great college QBs overcome all of those
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