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  • 35 - 7 ROFL Jan 7, 2013
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    Agree 100%. Maryland's SOS is abominable and it's easy to look good when you play a schedule that easy. Not to mention, they only beat George Mason by 6, Stony Brook by 7, and Louisiana Lafayette by 9. It's not like they've been blowing everybody out.

  • 903 mens national championships Jan 7, 2013
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    But as Jay Williams said last night, their SOS is #311 in Division 1. We'll see how they look when they play some tougher opponents in the ACC. As for VA Tech, they started well but haven't looked really great in the last few games.

  • 35 - 7 ROFL Jan 7, 2013
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    Who cares. I value his opinion on NCSU related topics almost as much as my dogs. Almost...

  • 35 - 7 ROFL Jan 7, 2013
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    I never posted my thoughts on the article, just thought he made use of some interesting statistics. I certainly disagree with the "write off NC State" viewpoint but it just goes to show that defense certainly needs to improve.

    I also think it's unfair to use one ACC game (and the first one, at that) as a sign of relative mediocrity, especially when it's on the road. I think it's great that we were able to get a road win in the ACC while playing that poorly. That is never an easy task (ask UNC). Further, all that matters right now is 1-0. If we can continue to improve as a team we will be fine and I really doubt our coaches will allow the poor defensive efforts seen against BC to continue.

    Personally I think we can play with anyone in the country when we are functioning on all cylinders. And most importantly, how far you go in the NCAA's is heavily influenced on how well you finish the regular season, not how your start it.

    Care to provide any insight or thoughts of your own?

  • duane11 Jan 7, 2013
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    i'm sure hans will love this

  • Coach Doherty Jan 7, 2013
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    Think for yourself!

  • 35 - 7 ROFL Jan 7, 2013
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    Maryland, on the other hand...they look quite well. Mark Turgeon's Terps have an amazing opportunity in a weak ACC, and they just aced their first test by clobbering Virginia Tech (another contender for the empty spot below Duke). At 13-1, the Terps have been excellent all year; in fact, the only game they dropped was their first, a close loss to Kentucky in Brooklyn. Turgeon has gathered a nice group of recruits (unlike Gary Williams, he's actually willing to spend time around the AAU scene, which helps), center Alex Len has turned into one of the 15 best big men in the country, and there's a resurgent sense of pride in College Park. I wish I could say the Terps were my dark-horse pick to challenge Duke and possibly even win the ACC, but I'm already late to the game. As of now, they look like the second-best team in the conference.

    http://www.grantland.com/blog/the-triangle/post/_/id/46732/the-hardcourt-shuffle-duke-and-michigan-rise-from-the-pack

  • 35 - 7 ROFL Jan 7, 2013
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    Watch Out for Maryland, Write Off N.C. StateIn the ACC, there's Duke, and there's everyone else. N.C. State started out in the top 10, but it's become apparent that they can't play defense, and the Boston College scare is the latest sign of their relative mediocrity. Let's take a quick look at their offensive and defensive profile, courtesy of Ken Pomeroy. He tells us that the Wolfpack are ninth in adjusted offensive efficiency (points scored per 100 possessions), and 160th in adjust defensive efficiency. It's a crazy disparity, and I immediately became curious about how teams with similar profiles had fared in the past. Using that criteria- top 10 offense, below 110 on defense (I wanted to be generous to State, hence 110 rather than 150), I looked back through recent history. Here are the qualifying teams I found from the past 10 seasons, along with their tournament results:

    2012: Missouri (Round of 64), Creighton (Round of 32)
    2011: Colorado (Sweet 16)
    2010: Notre Dame (Round of 64)
    2009: Arizona (Sweet 16)
    2008: Oregon (Round of 64)
    2007: None
    2006: Gonzaga (Sweet 16), Notre Dame (2nd round NIT) 2005: Gonzaga (Round of 32) 2004: Arizona (Round of 64) 2003: Boston College (2nd round NIT), Dayton (Round of 64), Notre Dame (Sweet 16)

    That makes 13 teams with one of the top 10 offenses in the country and a very mediocre defense. NONE of them, zero percent, won more than two tournament games...even if they were in the NIT. Only four of the 13 even made it to the NCAA Sweet 16, despite an elite scoring attack. It's not necessarily a novel idea that poor defense is a nonstarter, even when paired with excellent offense, but it is interesting that, at least in the past decade, there's not a single exception to the rule.

    This year, the two teams who fit the criteria are N.C. State and our old friends Notre Dame. And guess what? Smart money says neither of them will make it past the Sweet 16 either.

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