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  • buckets112 Jan 10, 2013
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    true...the perceived suckiness is greater when your team is getting some of it, even if the opponent is getting the same treatment. i watch bits and pieces of other acc games here and there and noticed that the refs do indeed spread their garbage among everyone.

  • PacknoPride Jan 10, 2013
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    They suck more when they are calling fouls against your team.

  • buckets112 Jan 10, 2013
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    i think the acc refs just suck in general, no matter what color jerseys are playing.

  • PacknoPride Jan 10, 2013
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    Really the point is that the refs aren't working for swofford, and they aren't cheating for anybody. For years, that's allwe heard from State fans. I'm just returning all the comments about how the refs are calling more fouls for Carolina because they cheat for Carolina. It doesn't matter how many front end of one-and-ones were made or missed or how many fouls were made in the first part of the game. State is getting to the foul line more than any other team, but still the complaint by the ragers that the refs are somehow cheating against State. No complaints about the push offs by Howell, and the elbows by Leslie. There is no conspiracy against state kollege. Right now u are enjoying the benifits of an inside game, as buckets point out.

  • Unc r Hypocrits Jan 10, 2013
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    Just curious, do you know how many of GTs free throws were the front end of a one-and-one that they missed? And, no, I don't know. We had a lot of FTs that were called against GT WHILE our player was in the act of shooting. And, as someone else pointed out, GT was fouling more often late in the game. Stats like this aren't fair to judge strictly on their own. One needs to see the whole picture to get the correct perspective.

  • TruthBKnown Banned Again01 Jan 10, 2013
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    OK, you guys were right. ;)

    But seriously, my problem with the foul calling is that they let too much go when Carolina is dishing out the heavy contact, but really calling the fouls on the other end.

  • buckets112 Jan 10, 2013
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    i don't watch many unc games other the the 2 or 3 a year that they play state so i don't really know what their offensive tendencies are. as such, i can't really make a knowledgeable comment on how officials perform in their games other than when they play state.

    i will say this though...with zeller and henson in the lineup, i can understand if they shot more FTs than the opposition.

  • PacknoPride Jan 10, 2013
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    Their memories are too short to rememember and their brains too filled with redrage.

  • chapelthrillv2 Jan 10, 2013
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    Whaaaaaaaat?! I agree with you, but we've used this reasoning with State fans in the past when they claim about Carolina's FT potential and have always been met with "CONSPIRACY!!11!11```" talk.

  • Coach Doherty Jan 10, 2013
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    Yep! It's not the school that is hated it's the fans!!! Bunch of blowhards that will latch on to anything bigger and better than themselves.

  • Killing Time Jan 10, 2013
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    That or the fact their fanbase is one huge cesspool of dimwits and toolbags.

  • buckets112 Jan 10, 2013
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    state scores a majority of their pts in the paint, so naturally that will lead to more foul shots as there are more opportunities for contact each possession...as opposed to a mostly jump shooting team.

    additionally, state has been involved in more close games than duke, that's why they're getting fouled more. duke has been winning by 20+ pts each time for the most part so opposing teams have no need to foul at the end of games...otherwise, they'd probably be closer to state in FTs attempted. in a game where state is winning by 3-6 pts in the final 90 secs, they will probably attempt 6-8 FTs in that time so the stat is a bit skewed when no context is applied to it.

  • Coach Doherty Jan 10, 2013
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    Teams have been fouling us at the end of games. Stop typing you are making yourself look clueless!

  • PacknoPride Jan 10, 2013
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    Oh, I got it. When the calls are going for Carolina, they're cheating, but when they go for state, the refs are learning their tendencies.

  • chapelthrillv2 Jan 10, 2013
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    Agree...no wonder people have been hating Carolina for generations! :)

  • TruthBKnown Banned Again01 Jan 10, 2013
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    Hee hee!

    You know you're doing something right when the haters are hatin'!

  • TruthBKnown Banned Again01 Jan 10, 2013
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    The refs are learning about State's "tendencies"....... LOL

    Just to refresh your memory: http://espn.go.com/blog/north-carolina-basketball/post/_/id/4912/lack-of-fouls-key-for-unc

    Clougherty also said that his officials study teams' and players' tendencies, so they know what to look for when it comes to fouls.

    Btw, State had several bad calls AGAINST them last night. I think you meant to post that State was lucky to win with all those bad calls going against them.

    But here's the best part. Ain't nothin' lucky about it. It's called SKILL, baby!

    SCOREBOARD!

  • halstevens12 Jan 10, 2013
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    Your statement is miss leading. Unc is setting records in turnovers with out any help from the opposing team. It is clear to all who watched the ACC officials the calls made against state were wrong. also both state and duke are playing a lot better than unCheat. Go back to huffing gasoline little one.

  • 86WolfAlum Jan 10, 2013
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    +10

  • Coach Doherty Jan 10, 2013
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    Packnopride is new to sports give him time.

  • cornbread Jan 10, 2013
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    This was just the opposite in the BC game. BC went to the line far more than NC State. State started to catch up near the end due to only being up a few with the large amounts of fouling at the end of the game. But yes last night State went to the line a bit more early.

    You would think with all that practice, we'd be better at shooting foul shots.

  • FAN72 Jan 10, 2013
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    Two points:

    UNC has always had this advantage in previous years and I didn't see you complain about their ratios.

    A lot of fouls by the losing team are intentional at the end of close games. NC State has been the benefactor of those excessive intentional fouls because their games have been so close the last few minutes. Even the GT coach was shaking his head last night when his team continued to foul while down 17 points in the last few seconds.

  • PacknoPride Jan 10, 2013
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    It seems that the officals are starting to see things the state kollege way. State is leading the ACC in number of free throws shot. State kollege has shot 381 freethrows. Duke has shot 349 and Carolina only 269. Last night was a typical example. GT 12 of 16. state kollege 20 of 29.
    stats from espn, and acc

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