The Official I hate Ted Valentine thread
Joe Giglio N&O
2) But about the officials
The problem with calling every little foul early in the game is you set a precedent. Then when you stop calling every little foul, there's no consistency. That's why it's best just to let the players decide the game, instead of trying to micromanage every bit of contact.
Touch fouls were called in the first half while considerable contact was ignored in the second half. Valentine, in particular, was unpredictable, to say the least.
On one botched call at 9:24 in the first half, Valentine awarded Purvis two foul shots after a made basket. Either the basket should have counted and Purvis should have gone to the line for one shot or Purvis should have been sent to the line for a one-and-one on Wake's seventh team foul. Instead, Valentine ignored the made basket and inexplicably awarded Purvis two shots (he made them both).
On another first-half call, about 5 minutes later, Valentine came from the opposite side of the floor to make a call on Vandenberg contesting a shot under the basket. Maybe Valentine had a better view than Jones, who was standing 3 feet from the play, but that's not Valentine's call.
"Come on, Les, you can't let that guy do that," Gottfried said to Jones after Valentine's foul call.
On two different calls, Valentine blew his whistle and put his arms out and palms up to indicate he needed help from either Jones or Corbett. To most fans, that "I don't know, help me" pose typified Valentine's night.
Valentine, by the way, has worked two N.C. State games this season and the Wolfpack has lost both games. Valentine whistled Leslie for a charge in the final minute of the Michigan loss on Nov. 27, which derailed any hope of an N.C. State win in that game.
Valentine held onto his whistle while Leslie went to the rim with 12 seconds left. Given Leslie had just missed three free throws, it actually looked like Wake's Aaron Rountree was trying to foul Leslie on the play but there was no call.
RE: The Official I hate Ted Valentine thread
A state fan complaining about the refs...what else is new?
RE: The Official I hate Ted Valentine thread
No d****e just posting a comment by local sports reporter but a d****e pansy ewenic trolling on the wolfsite............what else is new?
RE: The Official I hate Ted Valentine thread
Best strategy is to coach your players according to who's reffing the game. Everyone that follows college basketball has seen Valentine work games and he isn't going to change his style for any coach, player, or fan. So the best way to handle it is to adapt your play to his style of refereeing. That's much better than not adapting then complaining about him after you lost.
RE: The Official I hate Ted Valentine thread
valentine should not be allowed to call any games including rec.
RE: The Official I hate Ted Valentine thread
Hmmm and going for the tying layup with 12 seconds, get hammered and Teddy swallows his whistle, how do you propose to "adapt" to that?
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One can only wonder how many titles the Pack would have by now if it wasn't for the refs, Swofford, and the Board of Governors. A couple dozen at least, I'd imagine.
RE: The Official I hate Ted Valentine thread
Hmmm and going for the tying layup with 12 seconds, get hammered and Teddy swallows his whistle, how do you propose to "adapt" to that?
- Posted by 86WolfAlum
You adapt by not blowing a 16 point lead to put you in a position where you need to score to tie it up at the end.
RE: The Official I hate Ted Valentine thread
Gigs the NC State puppet clown....my goodness disecting ref calls...what next?
Maybe we should do this for the Dook/Miami and UNC/GT games
RE: The Official I hate Ted Valentine thread
Hmmm and going for the tying layup with 12 seconds, get hammered and Teddy swallows his whistle, how do you propose to "adapt" to that?
- Posted by 86WolfAlum
Maybe make the two free throws that you missed with 29 seconds left that would have given you the win.