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  • rherring23 Jan 25, 2013
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    Mainly the part about you should beat Wake Forest at home. While they haven't played a strong home schedule, they are still 3-0 at home in conference play. So until somebody beats them at home, don't see how you should beat them at home. Fact is that it is a real stupid statement, just about all the ACC teams stand a chance of winning at home.

  • ReasonableJacobSummers Jan 25, 2013
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    It sure could be applied to other schools. Link proving otherwise? My last sentence was a jab at your fellow fanbases only retort to me at times. I'd tell you to keep up but thats been a given in this convo.

  • barthc98 Jan 25, 2013
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    Well, at least you found the truth with your last sentence. And it is certainly no "great reveal" that logic rings hollow in your "ears". I am embarrased for you.

    You are obviously incapable of understanding the original post that you yourself made, and seek instead to introduce your own subjective arguments in its stead.

    Is State elite? Maybe. Maybe not. BUT!!! ... YOUR original post simply can not only be applied to state, and therefore must apply to all other schools that lose such games. Simple, simple, brutally simple logic. Period.

  • ReasonableJacobSummers Jan 25, 2013
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    Poor barf. How can you refute the irrefutable? Your red herring argument (rofl I bet you use that phrase in everyday speak) makes zilch sense. You remind me of one of those guys who strings a bunch of well worded but convoluted thoughts together in an English paper you write the night before its due and get a C- on it. If you just say that ur a lunatic fringer that thinks your state team is an elite squad irregardless of the fact they have played ONE good game this season I'll let you off the hook. Your if....then scientific experiments and weeded out philosophical debate skills makes you look like someone trying to be pompous but hasnt the critical thinking skills to follow up on even that negative yet provocative trait. Again I beg you try harder. Afterall you are merely talking to a basement living troll.....

  • barthc98 Jan 25, 2013
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    Nice try. A clear argument was made, I clearly refuted the given argument, which forced you to introduce points irrelevent to the original argument, as you continued to do in your most recent response. Pithy enough for you?

    And my god... if my use of simple everyday words from the english language seems somehow sesquipedalian to you, then how in hades did you ever get past english 101?

    And you wonder why I chose the cartoon version?

  • ReasonableJacobSummers Jan 25, 2013
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    I realize barf you seem to be a legend in your own mind. Let me help you. Elite teams lose all the time ( by all the time I mean Michigan here, Louisville there, and Indiana here). Elite teams don't lose here lose there lose everywhere. So use as many multisyllabic words as you can muster to string together a shallow and elementary philosophy lesson but point being and point always been: state isn't an elite team. Please dont let me take you to task anymore. Could you link The Fox and the Hound cartoon next? That cheap ripoff you provided didn't come close. Thanks so much.

  • barthc98 Jan 25, 2013
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    As the original argument was that State is not elite by virtue of having lost to Wake, you yourself refute your own argument with the first sentence of your statement.... which is essentially in agreement with the refutations i made.

    You then introduced red herring arguments in the form of claims about the fan base, allusions to previous Pack teams, and a claim that the pack is losing " regularly" now.... none of which, even if true, are relevent to thd initial argument, and are thus red herrings.

    SO: The promised primer:

    http://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DexdK7Lirngg&sa=U&ei=G8ACUa_sJZLm8QTyxIHYBw&ved=0CDUQtwIwAQ&usg=AFQjCNGFUDaG_bksExDvvbF5GTOCYib0lwNow pay attention in class, and don't let any punk pretenders take the rest of your lunch money....'K?

  • ReasonableJacobSummers Jan 25, 2013
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    State wont be top 25 come Monday so no elite they are not. Thats if I agree with your theory of top 25 being elite. I don't. State will be lucky to finish top 4 in the acc this year. Im smelling a Thursday acc game for ya come march

  • ReasonableJacobSummers Jan 25, 2013
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    Just 24 hours ago you would've said dook was an elite team with that Bull snot number one ranking. Miami mad sure that myth got debunked.

  • barthc98 Jan 25, 2013
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    This may prove to be true by the strictest of standards.. although Michigan , Kansas, and Florida may be a close approximation by the time it's said and done... Of course the wheels could fall off at one or all of those schools too. If Duke getz kelly back it might fit in there too. "Elite" is subjective. Is top 25 elite? Sweet 16, the 8, the 4, the 2, or only (or even) the ultimate NC? I tend to think that top 25 out of 347 div 1 schools is pretty "elite" territory.

    #6 Az lost tonight.... by 11 at home to UCLA.... another pretty "elite" team losing a shoulda...

  • barthc98 Jan 25, 2013
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    The "losing on the regular" is a logical stretch..... but is subjectively understandable for the wishful , so I won't challenge that rice cake.

    The primer will not be argument. Merely a needed instructive. The profs at unc shoulda covered it.... but what-the-hey.

  • 903 mens national championships Jan 25, 2013
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    There are no elite teams in college basketball this year. But out of the local teams, UNC is the furthest away from elite of the three.

  • ReasonableJacobSummers Jan 25, 2013
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    Elite teams lose all the time. Thats why no one goes undefeated anymore. State is not an elite team and seemsto be losing on the regular now. State is second tier and just accept it barf. Cue up you logical fallacies argument this should be good.

  • barthc98 Jan 25, 2013
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    I don't eat, drink, sleep, or dream State or any of the other of my favorite teams in any sport. But the fact is that elite is comparative. Disregarding the vitriolic, subjective opinion junk of your post, I stand behind the substantive points of my statement.
    Elite programs do lose the occasional "shoulda " game. Refute that, if you would argue substance....But If ya just wanna throw another "state sux" red herring into the.mix, then I'll just have to pick this up tomorrow, when i will have had time to procure for you a primer on logical fallacies.

  • ReasonableJacobSummers Jan 25, 2013
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    Oh my god dude. State is was and will forever be an unelite team. Your longwinded diatribe said nothing. Preseason all you yick yacks yelled to the mountain tops about the juggernaut that is state. You are still a second tier program with a fanbase still caught in la la land. God forbid you lose to a down Heels team this Saturday. There will be suicides piling up in Raleigh like none other. You're already at the brink at will be driven over with an L Saturday. Live it love it learn it.

  • barthc98 Jan 25, 2013
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    And my point being that all of these teams have been/are/were considered to be "elite" teams..... with the possibility of miami out of that mix as they were not thusly considered at the time of their loss.

    By the op point, none of these teams are/ were "elite" due to respective embarassing "shoulda" failures.. which is. a pretty shallow point given the nature of college basketball.... and especially conference college basketball.

    Unless elite is now to be defined as never losing a game that should be won... a test virtually no team will pass with perfection (indeed ALL teams have failed this test at least once this year), then that test is merely a nonsensical denial of reality.

    Elite is not perfection. Ergo, eliteness is not negated by a single loss in a "shoulda" situation. It is a relative term.

    Get it? Got it? Good.

  • ReasonableJacobSummers Jan 24, 2013
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    Point being is that state is NOT an elite team. Period. Much to the chagrin and opposed opinions of the lunatic fringe on this here forum. Get it? Got it? Good.

  • barthc98 Jan 24, 2013
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    Umm... isn't this sort of a "duh...ya think?" statement?

    I don't give out points for stating the obvious. We shoulda beat wake. Duke shoulda beat lehigh. Unc shoulda beat Texas. Miami shoulda bea fla gulf coast.
    Louisville shoulda beat villanova. Creighton shoulda beat Drake....and on and on ad nauseum.

    Heck.. I could "straight up dis" State better than that, and i'm not even hans!

    Sheesh!

  • Banned by Sissies Jan 24, 2013
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    Aren't you supposed to be in hiding? Licking those gaping wounds from last night? I see you haven't created "a bunch of troll threads" today. Wonder why?

  • VT1994Hokie Jan 24, 2013
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    Hye little towel boy. Ol Seth could coach this game. Way too many injuries took my school out of wins. He wasn't an azzzz kisser like some. He won more than any at VT. How do I know this?

  • VT1994Hokie Jan 24, 2013
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    I'm sorry. I don't read you in this one. Greenberg isn't all that old in years. Yes. He's gone. What was your point?

  • Jcwolf75 Jan 24, 2013
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    I like Seth, he called it like he saw it, Seth will be coaching again soon.

  • jacamoe Jan 24, 2013
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    I think he was the old V. Tech coach??????

  • VT1994Hokie Jan 24, 2013
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    You hit the nail on the head kato_karma. Seth Greenberg won more games than any coach at VT. He had several years with injuries to key personnel. He didn't gee-haa with our AD Weaver. He will land another Head Coaching job soon. He knows this game better than some out there in the ACC and beyond. He is stubborn too.

  • Wolfpackindahizzy4shizzy Jan 24, 2013
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    ^^^^ I guess my FACTS sufficiently shut up the pansy in wolves' clothing.

    :)

    S'rather... What I do !

  • Wolfpackindahizzy4shizzy Jan 24, 2013
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    I too, get to "watch" those teams play regularly.

    The comparison between me and Seth appears to be ever growing.

    Neat, how that's working out.

    :)

  • chapelthrillv2 Jan 24, 2013
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    He coached in a conference with UNC and Duke, so he got to see elite teams play fairly frequently.

  • Wolfpackindahizzy4shizzy Jan 24, 2013
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    Lol.... There she is... Couldn't resist the "cheese"!

    Poor thing still thinks I ever claimed I was qualified to make that claim.

    In that regard (UNqualified) Seth and I are rather alike :)

  • Hans Jan 24, 2013
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    Hi, Tizzy! Thank you for being so obsessed with me. Unlike you, I don't sit on the tarmac all day. Greenberg is much more qualified than you to talk about "elite" teams, wouldn't you say? And Greenberg is 100% spot on, yes? Yep. Once again, you've been exposed for the fool you are. I'm sure that won't stop your spewing, though!

  • Wolfpackindahizzy4shizzy Jan 24, 2013
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    Lol
    Where'd that pansy run off to???

    WhattaCOWARD.

  • Wolfpackindahizzy4shizzy Jan 24, 2013
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    LOL

    ya see hansy.. I'm NOT the one PRETENDING to KNOW what constitutes an "Elite Team".

    neat, how that worked out (for ME), huh???

    now hurry back with an ANSWER to my question...

    CHOP! CHOP!

  • Wolfpackindahizzy4shizzy Jan 24, 2013
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    You go first, pansy... I mean, you WERE asked FIRST.

    :)

  • Hans Jan 24, 2013
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    Hmm, I can only assume WolfbackindaTIZZY4shizzy has these qualifications, since he considers himself qualified to call out Greenberg.

  • Hans Jan 24, 2013
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    Which part of Greenberg's wasn't, WolfbackindaTIZZY4shizzy?

  • Wolfpackindahizzy4shizzy Jan 24, 2013
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    LOL, speaking of REALITY, which part of my post above yours was NOT steeped in it???

    I'll hang up and listen for your silence, hansy.

    :-)

  • Hans Jan 24, 2013
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    Does anyone know what SACy is babbling about? Anytime someone points out reality, it seems to throw him into a tizzy.

  • Wolfpackindahizzy4shizzy Jan 24, 2013
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    LOL

    with all due respect, what on earth does he (whoever he is) know about an "Elite Team"???

    has he ever coached in a Sweet 16???? has he ever had his team ranked among the top 5 in the nation???

    pfffftttt... he wouldn't know an "Elite Team", if it bit him on his ace.

    Truth!

  • Toddler10-21 Jan 24, 2013
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    He told the truth!!

  • KT Returns Jan 24, 2013
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    This

  • duane11 Jan 24, 2013
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    he speaks the truth, on this one....i dont see a problem with it

  • duane11 Jan 24, 2013
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    the difference, you failed to note, is that Gott has a history of taking teams to the dance...Greenburg, not so much

  • kato_karma.v4 Jan 24, 2013
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    Seth will do a year or so of TV...

    which will add to his qualifications/resume...

    and he will land a head coaching assignment somewhere.

    (you know...like Gott-fried)

  • 903 mens national championships Jan 24, 2013
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    I'm sure State is real concerned about what an ex-coach, who'll probably never get a chance at a major D-1 school again, says about them.

  • Wolfpackindahizzy4shizzy Jan 23, 2013
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    Who???

  • PhilDeez Jan 23, 2013
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    I love Robot Chicken!! But what does that guy know about basketball? O GreenBERG.... He was coach?

  • ReasonableJacobSummers Jan 23, 2013
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    "If you go on the road you're supposed to beat Wake Forest if you're an elite team....Florida is an elite team"

    Tell us something we dont already know Seth! Hows that national recognition working out for ya?

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