Should Vandenburg play more?

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  • unc70 Jan 28, 2013
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    He wasn't lost for long. Only played 3inutes.

  • ImCarmen_ Jan 28, 2013
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    NOOO! Vandenburg is 7'1 and CANT even get a rebound!... Even in the game against UNC he always looks lost on the court, like he does not know what to do or who to guard. There was one point in the game when Rodney Purvis had to yell at him and tell him to get the rebound smh

  • Lux Libertas Jan 28, 2013
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    Hindenburg! LOL....

  • lazydawg58 Jan 28, 2013

    Gott discussed his play on the tv show last night. I get the impression that he has shown that he can get out there and not hurt the team, give the big guys some rest, disrupt a little inside, a basket or two is just gravy. A couple of blocked shots and some altered shots make up for not running the floor as well as the others for a few minutes a game. Vandy is 7 foot one. I would rather he not jump much. That just gets him out of position. He needs to keep his arms up and move his feet. I think their are more positives than negatives in giving him more playing time. In the tourney, both ACC and NCAA, one game with Calvin or Richard in major foul trouble and it could all be over. Let Vandy give us 3 or 4 more inside fouls a game without putting our best players behind the 8 ball.

  • The Favorite Jan 28, 2013

    We can only hope they paly Vandenburg more...lololol

  • kato_karma.v4 Jan 28, 2013
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    In the scheme of things, there is more of a "this year" need to develop Lewis than Vandenburg. No true ball-handlers after Zo and Purvis.

  • Toddler10-21 Jan 28, 2013
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    With that performance aganist UNC YES he still should get more playing time. Dude reach down and grab the ball instead of standing there looking.

  • Packman24 Jan 25, 2013
    All Star

    Yes! He's a big body in the paint! I would give him quality minutes every game!

  • TVs_Deceit Jan 25, 2013

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    I would thing that just about everyone, with practice and training, should be able to jump at least a few inches. Maybe he's just not confident in his ability to land after jumping without falling, especially if bumped while in the air.

    That goes back to confidence/balance while doing extreme movements that can be gained through ballet/martial arts training.

  • TVs_Deceit Jan 25, 2013

    Seems I read about a tall player once who took ballet to improve their balance and movement. Martial arts would be good too for that.

    Maybe there's an issue with his speed getting down court after a missed shot. If he's much slower than the other players, that leaves a four on five allowing for a quick drive/shot.

    You can't teach athleticism, but I would think with his size, if he improved his movement and Bball IQ, he should be able to get in position and jump high enough to almost drop the ball in, with any block being goaltending.

    You can improve reaction time with practice, but speed can't be improved much. Howell is such an impact because he positions himself so well. If Vandy could improve his positioning skills, it would help reduce the effects of lack of speed.
    Add to that improving getting back down court faster to play defense, and he'd be a force to reckon with.

    So, three things.. positioning on offense for easy baskets, and on defense to prevent them [plus rebound] -- and speed/reaction time to move up and down the court. -- add to that overall balance and movement improvements [ballet/martial arts].

    Though, I've never seen him play in person and rarely on TV, so, those are just some guesses about what's up.

  • jmcdow2792 Jan 25, 2013
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    A very limited few minutes to rest or take up fouls. I am pretty sure after watching closely that Vandenburg's feet never left the court in the WF game. Unfortunate, but at 7 feet, that's all you get. Not even a 1 inch vertical.

  • TruthisKnown Jan 25, 2013
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    TB in NC you should feel comfortable addressing me in your real screen name and not"Ashamed"...LOLOL. You are such a prix hiding behind an alias. I see as I said earlier to 86wolfer "Mission Accomphlished" as you are so agitated and hot and botered I can just see the sweat coming off your old forehead. Best you take the meds, and lie down as at your age you cannot be too careful. great friend! Hope the weahther is good in Wake Forest!

  • TsKaMF Jan 24, 2013
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    Yes. NCSU needs 3-4 minutes of DFU(don't F--k up) minutes per half out of Vandenburg & Lewis. Not only for foul trouble purposes, but for rest & experience.

    Also packfan(s), NEVER defend the "sheep in wolves clothing" a.k.a. hans.

  • Observing Sassie and Laughing Jan 24, 2013

    TruthisKnown: aka Sassie

    After all this time you haven't learned anything have you Mr. Numbnutz? You're still the same half-wit you were when you first appeared in the Den a few years ago.

    Multiple usernames. Meaningless, obnoxious and moronic comments. Childish rants
    and crying about all things NC State.

    Your parents failed you miserably, and you're still blind to the fact that no one outside of a few of your close sports forum buddies gives a rat's *** what you think.

    Again, you can GTH.

  • KT Returns Jan 24, 2013
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    You must be new here.

  • TruthisKnown Jan 24, 2013
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    TB.....You sound really mad! Face red and stuff. Veins bulging. will all be over in a couple of months. Maybe baseball will be better for you girls....Again...stop being "ashamed" and use your real name. Hiding is not vey manly of you my girl.

  • Observing Sassie and Laughing Jan 24, 2013


    You poor wasted thing. Weak mind and stupidity are crippling you, fool. Give it up and call it a day!

  • TruthisKnown Jan 24, 2013
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    TB....You So Funny! Do not be "ashamed" of the will all be over in a couple of months! LMFAO!!!!

    Loved that loss to WEAK Forest....haw,haw,haw! Dream Team......Guffaw!

  • Observing Sassie and Laughing Jan 24, 2013

    TruthisKnown: aka Sassie and numerous other entities

    I'm not Tommy Brown, you simple-minded dolt. By the way, just GTH...

  • TruthisKnown Jan 24, 2013
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    TB....good to hear from you. And using your alias....cuase you are ashamed....Bawahhhhaaaaa! LMAO!!!! Poor thing.

  • Observing Sassie and Laughing Jan 24, 2013


    I normally discount anything you have to say, but what you said about Jordan Vandenberg and Tyler Lewis does make sense. I've often wondered why Vandenberg has not been used more often. From what I've seen he needs to be given more playing time, as well as, Tyler Lewis. Looks like the team will need the bodies before the season is over.

  • Jcwolf75 Jan 24, 2013
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    I think so, he looked pretty good and needs to come off the bench more for sure.

  • jacamoe Jan 24, 2013
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    Gott. should put Leslie and Howell at the forward and big V in the middle with Lo B and someone else( I guess Wood ) up top. If they all get into foul trouble then change it, but I think it is worth a good dog gone try.

  • packfan27 Jan 24, 2013

    Yes, when either Leslie or Howell rack up 2 fouls in the first ten min.

    Or Yes on a rotation w Leslie and Howell, when Karl Hess is officiating.

    An aside, Hans isn't the most positive for the Pack at times. But he simply answered the post and it was honest non-trolling. Why's he getting beat up?

  • Ken D. Jan 24, 2013
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    Even if playing him more doesn't help State at tournament time (when everybody's bench tends to get shorter), next year is another matter. He has another year of eligibility after this one, and there's a good chance State will lose four of its five starters after this year. He isn't going to get much better sitting on the bench.

  • Wolfpackindahizzy4shizzy Jan 24, 2013
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  • duane11 Jan 24, 2013
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    can hans possibly make even less sense with a post???..not sure, but i am sure he hasnt stopped posting , so it cant be ruled out

  • Wolfpackindahizzy4shizzy Jan 24, 2013
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    I wonder what would make Hansy more (or even "as") qualified than Gott, to make that decision..???


  • Hans Jan 24, 2013
    Sports Legend

    Absolutely not. Keep on keeping on with the 6-7 man rotation. Depth off the bench is highly overrated, and will not help you one iota come tournament time.

  • SportznutV2.0 Jan 24, 2013
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    I know this thread will eventually turn into mush....but I will give it a try

    One of the things that frustrates some Heels fans is how at the beginning of year Roy plays a million different line ups - many line ups that just don't work together. Many fans feels it costs the Heels some games. However, what it does is develop role players that you can "trust" when they enter the game. These players have played signficant role for the Heels over the years...IMHO

    I think State has two players they must develop quickly. Lewis and Vanderberg...actually De Thaey would have been a third. Vanderberg has always seemed to not hurt the pack when his is in IMO - he is not the best player but he doesn't disrupt the flow.

    Developing those players to help during tough times - foul prone games, players hurt or not shooting well - is essential

  • VT1994Hokie Jan 24, 2013
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    I agree with you. He should be getting more minutes--for sure.

  • KT Returns Jan 24, 2013
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    I saw him play a decent number of minutes vs. Miami OH. He's not that great and I wouldn't feel comfortable with him taking up a lot of minutes unless needed.

  • gamnell Jan 24, 2013

    To be honest, I haven't seen him play enough to know. I think he did fine in the Wake game, but they suck. How he would do against Duke or Miami is a different story.

  • Wolfpackindahizzy4shizzy Jan 24, 2013
    Sports Legend

    I think so

  • Toddler10-21 Jan 24, 2013
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    I say yes. The kid is seven one. He played quality minutes aganist Wake in the first half. He scored, rebounded, and blocked shots. Why doesnt Gott play him more? The kid doesnt have to score just take up space, block some shots, rebound, and play defense. Howell, and Calvin are logging alot of minutes.

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