The kid in the wheelchair was right
The Favorite Jan 30, 3:12 p.m.
zzzzzzzzzz....and the hook was set on poor Nutz!
cmac4eva Jan 30, 3:10 p.m.
Nothing is different now then it was then. Coaches do get time to make an attempt to build a program. Fans, especially State fans, including myself, want immediate results. But that doesn't necessarily change the culture we're in. Gottfried's job isn't to get the team to meet expectations. Most times, expectations are what's desirable, but far from realistic. I do agree that it is his job to get them to play to their full potential. Minus the Oklahoma State, Maryland, and Wake Forest game, I think they have done so.
But we have made tremendous progress: We're on pace to have a better record than last year, provided we don't have a complete meltdown, we have beat our two in state rivals for the first time in years, we have been in the top 25 conversation for most of the year, and the fans are excited about basketball again.
Still a lot of work to do, but like I said, we'll get there, it takes time.
PackisBack Jan 30, 2:10 p.m.
Thanks sportznut very true statement.
SportznutV2.0 Jan 30, 1:57 p.m.
I have State friends like you - and honestly I understand where you are coming from - and there is a part of me that wishes State would achieve some level of success for fans like you. Unfortunately, we are not in the days when someone like K gets a 3 year pass - we are in the what will you do for me immediately world. Your comments are not about expectations or becoming elite - they are about the same things happening year after year to your team - regardless of talent.
Every fan base has an element that set expectations way too high every year and complain when they aren't met. The year is still manageable for State - but they seem to be exhibiting some of the same problems from the past - it is Gottfrieds job to get this team to meet expectations or play to its potential. You can tell that most fans on here already have already set very high expectations for Gott
For your sake I hope your team succeeds this year - obviously for the lunatic pack fringe that live on these boards I don't feel the same -Good Luck!
The Favorite Jan 30, 1:47 p.m.
Sidney Lowe got better reviews his first 2 years....ROFL!!!
PackisBack Jan 30, 1:45 p.m.
Ya, we will be alright. If we can continue to improve, the recruits will start coming. I think Gott has a few growing pains left but he will get better. The foundation is being built we just need to stay the course.
The Favorite Jan 30, 1:39 p.m.
But you are losing 4 of 6 players. Duhhhhhh!
cmac4eva Jan 30, 1:35 p.m.
I feel ya there. It is hard being a state fan, but I see the bigger picture. Keeping everything in perspective, I think we're right where we should be at this point. Of course I would prefer us to be winning more, like most, but it takes time. Look at coach K. His first 3 years at Duke were the worst. Because we had a decent finish last year, we started to get some hype around the program, which is good, but I think we are another full year away from really being elite.
PackisBack Jan 30, 1:34 p.m.
The losses have been close! Hopefully ZO isn't out long so we can keep being competitive.
TruthBKnown Banned Again01 Jan 30, 1:31 p.m.
Underperforming is also a reflection of expectations. Expectations are higher because we have more talent than we've had in years.
The season isn't over, but we've got to figure out how to win on the road. And they've been so close. You'd think we could have pulled out at least one or two of these recent losses. There are some valid excuses for why these games were even close when they shouldn't have been. But at least we're still holding serve at home. I would say that is overperforming. I'm sure no one expected us to have NO home losses at this point.
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