RE: Paying respect to the Anthem - NCSU student newspaper
not a big deal imo
- Posted by blueduke4
Ditto this.
Like the author of the linked article, and I assume like others on this board, I too served in the military and am proud of it. Where I differ is that I viewed my service not as contribution towards the conscripted adherance to the words of ANY song, patriotic or otherwise, but rather as part of the defence of the precise opposite... i.e. the essentially unique american dedication to the freedom of speech...... which in my opinion makes us stronger than any any patriotic symbol - musical or otherwise- might ever adequately express.
..."the brave"... referred to in the song include many who would die for this country (or already have), and who also recognize the paradoxical power of our willingness to allow expressions which may seem somehow unpatriotic to the Nationalistic Purist.
Wow...Good stuff Bar
Agreed. INCREDIBLY well said, barthc98. This country was founded as a place of respite from despotism and vacuous mandatory rituals and traditions - it is our freedoms and liberties that make this country great, and people like you who are willing to fight to preserve them. Nothing is more "un-American" than blind adherence and fear of differences and dissent - though those very things seem to be all too frequently mistaken for "patriotism." This country and our form of government was great before the National Anthem was adopted, before the flag held its current design, etc.
The language in this clip will likely get me banned, but I think the great Bill Hicks makes a great point on a similar and pertinent subject pretty well right here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-UGv4XsEWQ
RE: Paying respect to the Anthem - NCSU student newspaper
not a big deal imo
- Posted by blueduke4
Ditto this.
Like the author of the linked article, and I assume like others on this board, I too served in the military and am proud of it. Where I differ is that I viewed my service not as contribution towards the conscripted adherance to the words of ANY song, patriotic or otherwise, but rather as part of the defence of the precise opposite... i.e. the essentially unique american dedication to the freedom of speech...... which in my opinion makes us stronger than any any patriotic symbol - musical or otherwise- might ever adequately express.
..."the brave"... referred to in the song include many who would die for this country (or already have), and who also recognize the paradoxical power of our willingness to allow expressions which may seem somehow unpatriotic to the Nationalistic Purist.
There are a gazillion songs to mess with - a National Anthem is not one of them IMHO - I respect your opinion but we differ. If it doesn't matter then heck let's make up some parodies - why don't we burn a flag or two while we are at it
It most certainly is not that it doesn't matter..... indeed, quite the opposite.
It is legal to burn a flag right now.... and yet it very rarely happens (in this country). But if you want to see them burned by the hundreds.... just make it illegal. Which, in my opinion, would be the unpatriotic equivilant of burning a million flags.
I will never understand why it is so hard for some to realize that the strength of our flag is not the flag itself, but what it stands for. And as long as it stands for freedom, then you might burn them by the bushel full and never scorch one thread of its inherant strength.
America is the "home of the brave"... ergo, Americans are brave. Wolfpack fans are americans (by and large)... ditto Tarheel fans and Duke fans and on and on
ad infinitum. I would no more think Duke fans or Chapel Hill fans "unpatriotic" for yelling "Blue Devils" or "Tar Heels" in place of "brave" than I would were the song to be sung out of key. In MY opinion, the greater place for reverence is for "that for which it stands", ... not the orientation or perfection of presentation.
RE: Paying respect to the Anthem - NCSU student newspaper
Look at y'all thesaurusing stuff all up. Rofl!
RE: Paying respect to the Anthem - NCSU student newspaper
not a big deal imo
- Posted by blueduke4
Ditto this.
Like the author of the linked article, and I assume like others on this board, I too served in the military and am proud of it. Where I differ is that I viewed my service not as contribution towards the conscripted adherance to the words of ANY song, patriotic or otherwise, but rather as part of the defence of the precise opposite... i.e. the essentially unique american dedication to the freedom of speech...... which in my opinion makes us stronger than any any patriotic symbol - musical or otherwise- might ever adequately express.
..."the brave"... referred to in the song include many who would die for this country (or already have), and who also recognize the paradoxical power of our willingness to allow expressions which may seem somehow unpatriotic to the Nationalistic Purist.
Wow...Good stuff Bar
Agreed. INCREDIBLY well said, barthc98. This country was founded as a place of respite from despotism and vacuous mandatory rituals and traditions - it is our freedoms and liberties that make this country great, and people like you who are willing to fight to preserve them. Nothing is more "un-American" than blind adherence and fear of differences and dissent - though those very things seem to be all too frequently mistaken for "patriotism." This country and our form of government was great before the National Anthem was adopted, before the flag held its current design, etc.
The language in this clip will likely get me banned, but I think the great Bill Hicks makes a great point on a similar and pertinent subject pretty well right here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-UGv4XsEWQ
Yes, thank you! Precisely.
It's an age old American battle... and likely always will be. The amazing thing is that it is our very freedom which breeds love of country. That patriotism is then misguidedly focused by some on the protection of symbolic representations of that very freedom...
via the establishment of limits on that very freedom.
RE: Paying respect to the Anthem - NCSU student newspaper
Look at y'all thesaurusing stuff all up. Rofl!
- Posted by The Honorable JacobSummers
Are thesaurusing relatives of the tyrannosaurusing?
RE: Paying respect to the Anthem - NCSU student newspaper
A newspaper puts their spin and opinion on a controversial practice to try and convince everyone of what the entire student body is really trying to communicate. Really? I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that 80% of the Packfans yelling "Wolfpack" are drunk and have no clue other than to get attention. I really doubt what the paper sez goes thru those young skulls full of mush.
RE: Paying respect to the Anthem - NCSU student newspaper
Look at y'all thesaurusing stuff all up. Rofl!
- Posted by The Honorable JacobSummers
Are thesaurusing relatives of the tyrannosaurusing?
Maybe. Im gonna need to watch Jurassic Park to verify.
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