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Paying respect to the Anthem - NCSU student newspaper

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  • The Honorable JacobSummers Feb 9, 2013
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    Maybe. Im gonna need to watch Jurassic Park to verify.

  • Rameses Unchained Feb 9, 2013
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    A newspaper puts their spin and opinion on a controversial practice to try and convince everyone of what the entire student body is really trying to communicate. Really? I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that 80% of the Packfans yelling "Wolfpack" are drunk and have no clue other than to get attention. I really doubt what the paper sez goes thru those young skulls full of mush.

  • MoDuke v2 is gone Feb 9, 2013
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    Are thesaurusing relatives of the tyrannosaurusing?

  • barthc98 Feb 9, 2013
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    Yes, thank you! Precisely.

    It's an age old American battle... and likely always will be. The amazing thing is that it is our very freedom which breeds love of country. That patriotism is then misguidedly focused by some on the protection of symbolic representations of that very freedom...via the establishment of limits on that very freedom.

  • The Honorable JacobSummers Feb 8, 2013
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    Look at y'all thesaurusing stuff all up. Rofl!

  • barthc98 Feb 8, 2013
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    It most certainly is not that it doesn't matter..... indeed, quite the opposite.

    It is legal to burn a flag right now.... and yet it very rarely happens (in this country). But if you want to see them burned by the hundreds.... just make it illegal. Which, in my opinion, would be the unpatriotic equivilant of burning a million flags.

    I will never understand why it is so hard for some to realize that the strength of our flag is not the flag itself, but what it stands for. And as long as it stands for freedom, then you might burn them by the bushel full and never scorch one thread of its inherant strength.

    America is the "home of the brave"... ergo, Americans are brave. Wolfpack fans are americans (by and large)... ditto Tarheel fans and Duke fans and on and on ad infinitum. I would no more think Duke fans or Chapel Hill fans "unpatriotic" for yelling "Blue Devils" or "Tar Heels" in place of "brave" than I would were the song to be sung out of key. In MY opinion, the greater place for reverence is for "that for which it stands", ... not the orientation or perfection of presentation.

  • Wolfpocalypse Now Feb 8, 2013
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    Agreed. INCREDIBLY well said, barthc98. This country was founded as a place of respite from despotism and vacuous mandatory rituals and traditions - it is our freedoms and liberties that make this country great, and people like you who are willing to fight to preserve them. Nothing is more "un-American" than blind adherence and fear of differences and dissent - though those very things seem to be all too frequently mistaken for "patriotism." This country and our form of government was great before the National Anthem was adopted, before the flag held its current design, etc.

    The language in this clip will likely get me banned, but I think the great Bill Hicks makes a great point on a similar and pertinent subject pretty well right here:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-UGv4XsEWQ

  • Observing Sassie and Laughing Feb 8, 2013
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    SporznutV2.0:

    Hilarious! packfan1979 slaps you, takes your nuts and you come back in here crying like a little girl. Poor, delusional little thing.

    The only person who actually cares about what you're posting or reposting in the Den is you. Besides, you post and repost nothing but garbage in here anyway
    and you know it.

    Now, get off the computer and go give Sassie a hug......

  • SportznutV2.0 Feb 8, 2013
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    There are a gazillion songs to mess with - a National Anthem is not one of them IMHO - I respect your opinion but we differ. If it doesn't matter then heck let's make up some parodies - why don't we burn a flag or two while we are at it

  • SportznutV2.0 Feb 8, 2013
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    I didn't realize you girls were having a circle rub - I Reposted an article for discussion - you decided to take it in another direction - go play with your makeup

  • Observing Sassie and Laughing Feb 8, 2013
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    packfan1979 posted:

    "Why does someone who is a full grown adult, served in the military, went to college, and seemingly an intelligent person say such things and act the way you do on here? You act as if you're above and better than an entire university and its student body/alumni.
    I'm all for sports rivalries, talking some smack and all, but you spend countless hours on countless message boards and websites finding things to run back and show people. And for what? You brag about your premium ic account, troll PP like there's no tomorrow and even look at the NCSU student newspaper. You are the definition of message board loser who lives his life vicariously through college kids. Their accomplishments=your self confidence."

    SporznutV2.0:

    You just got your "sports testicles" handed to you. Hurt much, you obnoxious
    Sassie-like imbecile?

  • Last Word Feb 8, 2013
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    Wow...Good stuff Bar

  • My Name is Bobo Feb 8, 2013
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    The wolfpack just embarasses themselves even singing the anthem while their football and basketball teams embarass them on the court. I guess turnabout from students to the teams is fair play for wolfpack folks!!!

  • Hans Feb 8, 2013
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    Yes. Very nice.

  • rx74u2nv Feb 8, 2013
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    Tuna!

  • barthc98 Feb 8, 2013
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    Ditto this.

    Like the author of the linked article, and I assume like others on this board, I too served in the military and am proud of it. Where I differ is that I viewed my service not as contribution towards the conscripted adherance to the words of ANY song, patriotic or otherwise, but rather as part of the defence of the precise opposite... i.e. the essentially unique american dedication to the freedom of speech...... which in my opinion makes us stronger than any any patriotic symbol - musical or otherwise- might ever adequately express.

    ..."the brave"... referred to in the song include many who would die for this country (or already have), and who also recognize the paradoxical power of our willingness to allow expressions which may seem somehow unpatriotic to the Nationalistic Purist.

  • Last Word Feb 8, 2013
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    .....9......10

  • The Honorable JacobSummers Feb 8, 2013
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    Good thing nc state is rarely on national tv. Your disrespectful practice is only seen locally.

  • KT Returns Feb 8, 2013
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    POW!!!!

    AND SPORTSACK IS DOWN FOR THE COUNT!!

    1....2....

  • TVs_Deceit Feb 8, 2013
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    spottynut's picture is in the dictionary next to the definition of the word "Loser".

  • PackisBack Feb 8, 2013
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    Their accomplishments=your self confidence.

    +10000

  • 5 Star Walk-On Feb 8, 2013
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    Why does someone who is a full grown adult, served in the military, went to college, and seemingly an intelligent person say such things and act the way you do on here? You act as if you're above and better than an entire university and its student body/alumni.
    I'm all for sports rivalries, talking some smack and all, but you spend countless hours on countless message boards and websites finding things to run back and show people. And for what? You brag about your premium ic account, troll PP like there's no tomorrow and even look at the NCSU student newspaper. You are the definition of message board loser who lives his life vicariously through college kids. Their accomplishments=your self confidence.

  • PackisBack Feb 8, 2013
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    yeah man he obsesses over NCSU because DUKE has owned their rears for 20 years. It makes this simpleton happy that he is part of something bigger than his own dreary life. We all need something to hang our hats on. I prefer to hang my hat on my own accomplishments not someone elses.

  • PackisBack Feb 8, 2013
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    GET A LIFE!!!! !

  • SportznutV2.0 Feb 8, 2013
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    I am totally obsessed with Moo U ...never hid that fact. I hate them with a passion and I root for their opponent NO MATTER who it is ....they are red headed step children that should only speak when spoken to, but chose to do otherwise

  • PackisBack Feb 8, 2013
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    Don't read the article about cheating please read this garbage. Look at this! Look at this!! Not at our cheating!!!!

  • Yeah Man Feb 8, 2013
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    haha. How long did it take you to research before you found something else to complain about? It almost looks like you google as much as possible about State so you have something to say. Obsessed much?

  • SportznutV2.0 Feb 8, 2013
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    there is still hope for you

  • blueduke4 Feb 8, 2013
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    not a big deal imo

  • PackisBack Feb 8, 2013
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    sportnuts likes to put all people in one box. That keeps it simple for his wittle brain.

  • TruthBKnown Banned Again01 Feb 8, 2013
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    It is a bunch of carp. There are a lot of us State fans that despise this practice. I cringe every time I hear it. So disrespectful. I can handle the part where they yell "RED!!!" because that IS in the song. But I think it is disrespectful to change the last word from "Brave" to "Wolfpack".

    I shudder to think how that would come across on TV in games where they actually show the national anthem being sung.

  • TsKaMF Feb 8, 2013
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    I'd go with Grouper

  • boheath Feb 8, 2013
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    They're certainly not paying tribute to draft dodging Roy Williams.

  • SportznutV2.0 Feb 8, 2013
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    The red headed step children have serious inferiority complex...my gosh just sing the NATIONAL Anthem as it was meant to be sung- if you can't understand that you are disrespecting all of us who served then you don't get it

  • Hans Feb 8, 2013
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    That's pretty sad.

  • Lux Libertas Feb 8, 2013
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    Juar WOW.

    You could not make this stuff up.

  • KT Returns Feb 8, 2013
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    carp...not a very tasty dish.

    I recommend salmon.

  • SportznutV2.0 Feb 8, 2013
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    http://www.technicianonline.com/sports/article_bd981534-70e3-11e2-bfc8-001a4bcf6878.html

    and of course because delusional is part of the fabric in Raleigh here is one of the comments

    When they shout, "Wolfpack" at the end, I believe that it's the student body paying tribute to those members of the pack who have served, are serving, and will continue to serve as long as there's a United States of America. As North Carolina residents and NCSU students, we the home of the Wolfpack are also the home of the brave.

    what a bunch of carp

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