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  • TruthBKnown Banned Again01 Feb 12, 10:37 a.m.
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    I thought it was an undercut and should have been called a foul (against Duke).

    But apparently,... View More

    — Posted by TruthBKnown Banned Again01

    very true..I think a 20 second battle royal would be sweet to end a game

    — Posted by SportznutV2.0

    After giving this more thought, I'm OK with what happened. (And it is similar to what happened... View More

    — Posted by TruthBKnown Banned Again01

    I understand your point, but it's still a possession, and the team has a right to score points... View More

    — Posted by TVs_Deceit

    Oh, I agree. I never said it was right. I just think that is how they operate. And if it is, teams need to act accordingly to do what it takes to finish the game at the very end. If I'm right, it would be a big advantage for teams that are aware of this.

  • Chapel Hail Feb 12, 7:11 a.m.
    Sports Legend

    I gotta go with clipping , 15 yards and the 1st down.

    — Posted by jacamoe

    ... it's a makeup no call for the time that Duke f-baller saluted the ole' Virginny crowd and got a personal foul that allowed the Cavs to continue their game winning drive.

  • dUNCe Feb 12, 7:04 a.m.
    Veteran

    A scrum, and a good no call, especially since they had been letting them play all day.

    — Posted by blueduke4

    Jay Bilas "A foul is a foul, no matter when it happens"

    — Posted by SportznutV2.0

    Ask State fans after Marshall charged at the end of the game with UNC last year and the Ref ate his whistle. You're right though a foul is a foul no matter when it happens.

  • DooksucksV3 Feb 12, 6:56 a.m.
    Sports Legend

    I saw quinn cook run up and shove one bc player squarely in the back with both hands (that guy... View More

    — Posted by Wolfpackindahizzy4shizzy

    Truth is never a conundrum.

  • TVs_Deceit Feb 12, 6:16 a.m.
    Pro

    Duke was getting away with those type if pushes most ofthe BC game. Cook gets away with a lot of... View More

    — Posted by unc70

    I hear you, unc70. We came from an era when finesse, not physical, play, was what we saw. That... View More

    — Posted by Unc r Hypocrits

    I think it is impossible to run State's final play without taking several steps. Certainly not... View More

    — Posted by unc70

    Good analysis. I too thought Wood shuffled his feet. It happens.

    — Posted by Hokies94

    At the same time.. Howell got slammed like a linebacker by the Clemson dude, and that could have been called as well.. and usually is at any other time in a game.

  • TVs_Deceit Feb 12, 6:12 a.m.
    Pro

    I am not going to comment just post the video
    What is State fans take on the play at the 1:55... View More

    — Posted by SportznutV2.0

    I thought it was an undercut and should have been called a foul (against Duke).

    But apparently,... View More

    — Posted by TruthBKnown Banned Again01

    very true..I think a 20 second battle royal would be sweet to end a game

    — Posted by SportznutV2.0

    After giving this more thought, I'm OK with what happened. (And it is similar to what happened... View More

    — Posted by TruthBKnown Banned Again01

    I understand your point, but it's still a possession, and the team has a right to score points unhindered the same as the first possession in a game. At least by not being flagrantly hindered.

    Who gives the game away can also be seen as the player doing the flagrant fouling.

    Taking out the two players ON PURPOSE was a gross offense, and Cook is the one who, if called, "gave away" the game by committing the fouls. Not the refs.

    In fact, the refs could also be said to be giving away the game to Duke by not calling the foul.

    Also, the BC players could have easily been injured the way Cook ran in shoving and undercutting.

    If refs let that kind of intentional fouling continue to occur "just because" there's only a few seconds in a game, eventually a player's going to pay the price with a potentially serious injury.

  • BattlingBishop 5 Feb 11, 10:11 p.m.
    Sports Legend

    Had #25 held his ground versus running like a Tallahassee Tar Heel, we wouldn't be having this debate.

    All kiddin' aside, I saw a push in the back in the final secs., followed by a Duke Blue Backbreaker. All that matters is the score.

  • Unc r Hypocrits Feb 11, 8:21 p.m.
    Sports Legend

    So this thread is about NC State's last play against Clemson? I thought it was about The Duke -... View More

    — Posted by SpartanDude

    Subjects getting changed is very normal here. You'll get used to it. :)

  • Unc r Hypocrits Feb 11, 8:20 p.m.
    Sports Legend

    ^Please explain this to the young wolf fringers, so they can stop using the refs as a conspiracy... View More

    — Posted by blueduke4

    Watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCUUGdn-irY

    — Posted by TruthBKnown Banned Again01

    Oh my.

  • SpartanDude Feb 11, 7:24 p.m.
    Veteran

    So this thread is about NC State's last play against Clemson? I thought it was about The Duke - BC game. Hmmm. Alright, I'll go with it.

    Okay, based on my previous comment about Cook's shove plus undercut of the BC players, I'm not surprised the refs swallowed their whistles at the end of the NCState - Clemson game. A little shuffle by the shooter is not uncommon and not often whistled by the refs nowadays. Clemson had enough opportunities to ice the game but failed to seal NC State's fate. The better team actually won the game, just like in the BC game.

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