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Bless their hearts


RE: Bless their hearts

Okay. Here's the explanation. NCSU pushed the ball inside and the Hokies played hard defense. The Hokies shot a lot of uncontested jump shots and NCSU played little if any defense.

Just saw a replay of the VT free throws on ESPN to end regulation. ESPN said it was an illegal play -- the Hokie who got the rebound and put back left his position before the VT player shot and missed the 2nd free throw. 2 points. Game tied. Overtime. No call.

And then, there's this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0jg2t-8tQI
Most of you will be able to count the 4 steps Green takes while holding the ball. No call. 2 points for VT.

ACC officiating is not very good regardless of which team wins. It's that simple. 
- Posted by NCSU72
Glad your eyes saw more than mine in regard to Green talking 4 steps. BS. He was beaten a few times on his arms and no calls. Don't make any excuses for your beloved school.  
- Posted by Hokie 94


Those 2 beers and 1 scotch you mentioned in another post must have made it difficult for you to count. Green clearly takes 4 steps with the ball in his hands to the basket. The video is even in slow motion -- come on, Hokie -- you're better than that. The basket counted. As did the illegal tip in to end the regulation game.

And, again, to bad for those of you don't know enough about basketball to understand the free throw differential. In addition to the difference created by NCSU playing an inside offensive game against a very physical VT defense and VT a very effective outside jump shot offensive game there were all of the "intentional" fouls hoping the NCSU players would miss -- don't know how many, but there were a lot.

Were the refs awful? Yes. Does the free throw differential make sense anyway? Yes. I was there -- VT was very rough under the NCSU basket and a lot of it didn't get called -- otherwise the VT team would have fouled out. 
- Posted by NCSU72


he actually took just 3 steps...but a travel none the less. 
- Posted by wmarti


It was four steps from the point where he last dribbled. Here's the video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0jg2t-8tQI

He missed the shot and State rebounded it. So no harm done. But it wasn't even up for debate. The dude traveled horribly and the refs didn't call anything. This is how a team can overcome poor officiating -- the refs cannot put the ball in the basket for a team. But had he made the shot, it's two points that shouldn't have been.

Hans, even as a Carolina fan, surely you see where that traveling no-call was a very bad miss by the refs. That's all I'm saying here.

RE: Bless their hearts

Glad your eyes saw more than mine in regard to Green talking 4 steps. BS. He was beaten a few times on his arms and no calls. Don't make any excuses for your beloved school.  
- Posted by Hokie 94


Those 2 beers and 1 scotch you mentioned in another post must have made it difficult for you to count. Green clearly takes 4 steps with the ball in his hands to the basket. The video is even in slow motion -- come on, Hokie -- you're better than that. The basket counted. As did the illegal tip in to end the regulation game.

And, again, to bad for those of you don't know enough about basketball to understand the free throw differential. In addition to the difference created by NCSU playing an inside offensive game against a very physical VT defense and VT a very effective outside jump shot offensive game there were all of the "intentional" fouls hoping the NCSU players would miss -- don't know how many, but there were a lot.

Were the refs awful? Yes. Does the free throw differential make sense anyway? Yes. I was there -- VT was very rough under the NCSU basket and a lot of it didn't get called -- otherwise the VT team would have fouled out. 
- Posted by NCSU72


he actually took just 3 steps...but a travel none the less. 
- Posted by wmarti


It was four steps from the point where he last dribbled. Here's the video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0jg2t-8tQI

He missed the shot and State rebounded it. So no harm done. But it wasn't even up for debate. The dude traveled horribly and the refs didn't call anything. This is how a team can overcome poor officiating -- the refs cannot put the ball in the basket for a team. But had he made the shot, it's two points that shouldn't have been.

Hans, even as a Carolina fan, surely you see where that traveling no-call was a very bad miss by the refs. That's all I'm saying here. 
- Posted by TruthBKnown Returned


With all the whining from the fanbase and the coaches at State the refs find it hard to focus on the actual game. State is and will continued to be blackballed until they get a reputable AD and coach. Truly sad to be so bitter against everyone and everything!

RE: Bless their hearts

TBK has truly gone insane.

RE: Bless their hearts

TBK has truly gone insane.  
- Posted by chapelthrillv2
Oh. TBK knows how to write. He can push buttons, and that's his game when his team wins. Otherwise, he will close it down. I would hope that one day that UNC, Duke, MD, or even VT could shoot 43-7 free throws vs NC State. See if TBK says the same darn thing then. Wait. I know this deal. I know it all too well.

RE: Bless their hearts

TBK has truly gone insane.  
- Posted by chapelthrillv2
Oh. TBK knows how to write. He can push buttons, and that's his game when his team wins. Otherwise, he will close it down. I would hope that one day that UNC, Duke, MD, or even VT could shoot 43-7 free throws vs NC State. See if TBK says the same darn thing then. Wait. I know this deal. I know it all too well.  
- Posted by Hokie 94


If that ever happens, TBK will lock himself in his bedroom, cover his head in tin foil, and post about how evil Swoff and Hess are coming to get him and take him away.

RE: Bless their hearts

^^^^ TBK just has a hard time in facing reality at times. When State chokes it down he will see it. He only went away for two days 2-3 years ago when State was supposed to beat VT at home in football after a half-time lead.

RE: Bless their hearts

Glad your eyes saw more than mine in regard to Green talking 4 steps. BS. He was beaten a few times on his arms and no calls. Don't make any excuses for your beloved school.  
- Posted by Hokie 94


Those 2 beers and 1 scotch you mentioned in another post must have made it difficult for you to count. Green clearly takes 4 steps with the ball in his hands to the basket. The video is even in slow motion -- come on, Hokie -- you're better than that. The basket counted. As did the illegal tip in to end the regulation game.

And, again, to bad for those of you don't know enough about basketball to understand the free throw differential. In addition to the difference created by NCSU playing an inside offensive game against a very physical VT defense and VT a very effective outside jump shot offensive game there were all of the "intentional" fouls hoping the NCSU players would miss -- don't know how many, but there were a lot.

Were the refs awful? Yes. Does the free throw differential make sense anyway? Yes. I was there -- VT was very rough under the NCSU basket and a lot of it didn't get called -- otherwise the VT team would have fouled out. 
- Posted by NCSU72


he actually took just 3 steps...but a travel none the less. 
- Posted by wmarti


It was four steps from the point where he last dribbled. Here's the video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0jg2t-8tQI

He missed the shot and State rebounded it. So no harm done. But it wasn't even up for debate. The dude traveled horribly and the refs didn't call anything. This is how a team can overcome poor officiating -- the refs cannot put the ball in the basket for a team. But had he made the shot, it's two points that shouldn't have been.

Hans, even as a Carolina fan, surely you see where that traveling no-call was a very bad miss by the refs. That's all I'm saying here. 
- Posted by TruthBKnown Returned


Sure, but is this the first basketball game you ever watched? There are always missed calls, both for and against every team. How many missed holding calls do you see in football? How many missed high-sticks and slashes do you see in hockey? In a fast moving sport with a bunch of guys on the court, field, ice the refs are not going to be able to see everything. That's just the way it is, so you might as well just accept it. This is not a conspiracy by Swofford and the BOG.

RE: Bless their hearts

State won this game because we're a dayum good team. It takes a dayum good team to overcome officiating this horrendous, combined with an opponent playing their best because they know they have to.

State really does have a target on their backs now. It's good and bad. Good because that means you're good. Bad because you can slip up and lose one like this that is being taken away from you.

Great win, Pack. Ignore the naysayers. This was a great win, maybe one of the best wins of the season. It's hard to win 5 against 8, I tell ya! 
- Posted by TruthBKnown Returned


This is a perfect example of why we say Pack fans are delusional. They are not a "dayum good team". They are average at best. They just let the worst team in the league take them to overtime. They're not even ranked. Your top 5 recruiting class should be in the top 5. Poor Pack fans. You just don't get it.

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