Phillip Rivers is as much of a waste of money as Maria Williams

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  • Do Not Try and Stop JacobSummers Sep 10, 2013
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    Talk about a choke artist. Maybe if Johnny Corngood would stop side arming his passes he may actually be a success.

  • NCSU1983 Sep 10, 2013
    Pro

    Though we pack fans have bragged about him being a pro QB he really is no good and unfortunately Mike Glennon is in the same boat only worse. Now wisconsins Williams is good but he just played briefly at the pack though we try to claim him as well.
    When TOB ran him off it was a typical bonehead move.
    Go pack

  • dean24kiwi14 Sep 10, 2013
    Pro

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    Thank you for your honesty. Too little of that around here.

  • Toddler10-21 Sep 10, 2013
    Sports Legend

    Rivers did the same thing at state. Lights out for 3 and half quarters, then a terrible pass that leads to a pick six. Never been a winner. Go pack.

  • Jcwolf75 Sep 10, 2013
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    Sassie who is Williams? I know I've seen Russell Wilson (ncsu grad, 3 year starter, never lost to unc) killing it in Seattle but I don't know who Williams is. We all know you aren't a state fan, get off it.

  • KTs Insulin Wholesalers Sep 10, 2013
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    Especially from you.

  • WPIDHizzyForShizzy Sep 10, 2013
    Veteran

    Lol
    Everywhere (each position) you look, Ex-Pack players are OUTearning ex-pansy players.

    No wonder they (pansy nation) can't hide their envy for Pack players.

    #PaidMoreThanPansies

    :)

  • NCSU1983 Sep 10, 2013
    Pro

    Excuse my earlier mistake as I obviously mean't Russell Wilson from Wisconsin. He did play a few years with us but ended as a Wisconsin player.
    Go pack

  • Jcwolf75 Sep 10, 2013
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    Yes after he graduated from state he did enter Wisconsin for grad school and had an awesome year. He was back at an ncsu camp earlier this year, he will always be a wolfpack graduate.

    So why are you pretending you're a state fan?

  • ramangum Sep 10, 2013
    Towel Boy

    this post really doesn't even deserve a response but really? Rivers has been around a LONG time...he was an elite QB in his early years as a starter, winning their division 4 years in a row. The past 2 years he has had NO ONE to throw to as Jackson and Gates spent most of the time injured AND he hasn't had a decent offensive line in years. Is he the QB he used to be? No, but lets not bench him after one game...he threw 4 TDs and 1 INT...it just happened to be at the worst time.

    Russell Wilson is and will always be a part of Wolfpack Nation. TOB was dumb for letting him go but it probably worked out best of RW. He is an outstanding person and I'm glad things have worked out for him.

    Mario Williams was a stud in Houston before his injury, but unfortunately, he hasn't been the same since coming back...

    By the way, how many UNC and Duke starters are there at QB in the NFL?

  • TruthBKnown Banned Again03 Sep 10, 2013
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    Yes, because 200 yards passing on 14 completed passes (and four touchdowns) is a tremendous choke. (And one INT).

    How did the Carolina QBs in the NFL do this weekend?

  • KTs Insulin Wholesalers Sep 10, 2013
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    Time on the bench: 60 minutes

  • manrocket72 Sep 10, 2013
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    How did the NFL starting UNCheat QB's do this weekend?

  • TruthBKnown Banned Again03 Sep 10, 2013
    Sports Legend

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    You do realize that is Hans, right?

  • JACKSONSAWYER IS SUPREME Sep 10, 2013
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    from one hole to another thats the way you like it duh!!!!!!!!!!!

  • backpainfaker Sep 10, 2013
    Pro

    i've stated before that rivers doesn't have the football iq. he's too emotional.

  • WPIDHizzyForShizzy Sep 10, 2013
    Veteran

    Rivers > any pansy QB ever

    Therein lies their angst.

    #ILovePansyAngst

    :)

  • TSKMFs Sep 10, 2013
    All Star

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    I disagree....he just had to play under Norv Turner.

  • TSKMFs Sep 10, 2013
    All Star

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    You are talking to an elementry schooler.

  • TruthBKnown Banned Again03 Sep 10, 2013
    Sports Legend

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    I realized that after I posted it.

  • TSKMFs Sep 10, 2013
    All Star

    As much of a waste as bMFd's $2.7mil buyout? Or HT's, DB's, dr.kangaroo's? The list goes on & on.

    Stay stewpid my (ewenc)FRIENDS.

  • WPIDHizzyForShizzy Sep 10, 2013
    Veteran

    Rivers > any pansy QB ever

    Facts, hurt pansies' feelings.

    which (of course), makes me grin.

    :)

  • Toddler10-21 Sep 10, 2013
    Sports Legend

    Norv won three titles with the cowboys as OC. Why did rivers have a problem with him? Troy didn't mind. Also Rivers played with HOF back LT, and couldnt get along with him either. Wonder if that mouth had anything to do with it?

  • early exit Roy Sep 10, 2013
    All Star

    There are a lot of unc QB's in the nfl that are better than rivers. That's right, the only unc QB in the pros is a benchwarmer. Probably because you have to have talent and be smart. UNC QB's are lacking in both of those qualities

  • WPIDHizzyForShizzy Sep 10, 2013
    Veteran

    Yep.

    Hence, this thread.

    They canNOT hide their envy... For a capable NFL QB... If only they'd produced JUST ONE.... EVER!

    #YouCanTellThey'reEmbarrassed

    :)

  • WPIDHizzyForShizzy Sep 10, 2013
    Veteran

    #TheEnvyIsPalpable

    :)

  • WPIDHizzyForShizzy Sep 10, 2013
    Veteran

    #MyMinionCountIsUncountable

    :)

  • WPIDHizzyForShizzy Sep 10, 2013
    Veteran

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    This fact... Has some pastel panties wadded up tightly.

    #NeatHowThatWorks

    :)

  • WPIDHizzyForShizzy Sep 10, 2013
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    Another one that pansies have a difficult time digesting.

    #FactsAreFun

    :)

  • WPIDHizzyForShizzy Sep 10, 2013
    Veteran

    What is.. Two players drafted HIGHER than any pansy player???

    Ever.

    Thanks, Alex... I'll take, pansies dangling from my junk for a cool grand!

    :)

  • kato_karma2.0 Sep 10, 2013
    Pro

    If that is the case, kturd should just stop asking them

    (ttyl, ol' neighborhood troller...kato out)

  • KTs Insulin Wholesalers Sep 10, 2013
    Veteran

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    kato should learn how to read...

    as well as wear a paper bag over it's head

  • WPIDHizzyForShizzy Sep 10, 2013
    Veteran

    My neighbors said they've made that suggestion to the hideous one... But, like most pansies.. They said it is in deep denial about just how hard it is to look at.

    #TheWholeThingJustMakesMeGrin

    :)

  • Do Not Try and Stop JacobSummers Sep 10, 2013
    Pro

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    Lolololololololololololololololololol Lolololololololololololololololololol

  • KTs Insulin Wholesalers Sep 10, 2013
    Veteran

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    stalk stalk stalk stalk

    #nothingifnotpredictable

  • Do Not Try and Stop JacobSummers Sep 10, 2013
    Pro

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    No derpy what IS predictable is when I laugh at someone railing you you just HAVE to respond. ...ya just have to!!!!

    The answer is ------------------> A

  • WPIDHizzyForShizzy Sep 10, 2013
    Veteran

    Hid
    E
    Us

    You almost have to feel pity for the poor thing.

    My neighbors said just seeing it, brings their lunch up!

    #PoorLilHideousThing

    Facts-R-Fun

    :)

  • kato_karma2.1 Sep 11, 2013
    Pro

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    he and fatmidgetgolfer get a bit defensive when they hear laughter...

    because it is typically directed AT THEM.

  • wkmeekins Sep 15, 2013
    Pro

    Darn I believe Rivers took Philly to the wood shed today and Mario killed the Panthers! Looks like their demise was publized a little to early

  • early exit Roy Sep 15, 2013
    All Star

    They are worth more in football than unc bb players, joe forte, sean may, rashad (basketcase) mccants and many more overrated unc basketball players. You need to check your school before you start making judgements of nc state players.

  • TSKMFs Sep 15, 2013
    All Star

    Both Rivers & Mario put on a clinic today. Did any ewenc playa$ get arrested?

  • 24to14dean Sep 15, 2013
    Veteran

    They're all going to be suspected of aggravated assault after they whip up on state college later this season.

    They might want to start lawyering up for that one LOL

  • VT1994Hokie Sep 16, 2013
    Sports Legend

    Rivers must have had a jolt of the Red Bull yesterday. No picks and all of that yardage. Peyton is still the best. Tom Brady is slowing a little. Losing his top receiver didn't help. Playing for Bill has to take it's toll.

  • 24to14dean Sep 17, 2013
    Veteran

    Rivers is one of the biggest punks to ever "graduate" from the ACC.

  • Jcwolf75 Sep 17, 2013
    Sports Legend

    Rivers has been a bit punkish over the last few seasons but he's been lean on playmakers. He still has elite QB numbers, rarely misses games, and been to multiple pro bowls. I think Super Mario showed why gets paid... He's still a beast.

  • TSKMFs Sep 17, 2013
    All Star

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    Nope. That would be you....oh, you did not graduate. Just a "punk".
    :(

  • weaklings report Sep 17, 2013
    All Star

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    anybody see crybaby brady on sunday?...reminds me of him barking at a receiver in one of the super bowl losses to the giants, when he made a bad throw...hope he cries some more this year

  • KTs Insulin Wholesalers Sep 17, 2013
    Veteran

    Oh my. The OP certainly got egg on their face with this thread. LOL

  • kmorcomeback2 Sep 17, 2013
    Sports Legend

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    heck he has never been on campus.

  • WPIDHv.42 Sep 17, 2013
    Pro

    Rivers > all prior pastel QBs added together.

    and

    therein lies the pansies' angst.

    #PansyAngstMakesMeGrin

    :)

  • TSKMFs Sep 17, 2013
    All Star

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    I'm sure.

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