Doeren is done!
TruthBKnown Returns Once Again04 Nov 4, 4:58 p.m.
Lighten up, Francis. Doeren ain't done by a dang site.
We're doing more "trickeration" than we've probably ever done, because we're masking our lack of talent and depth.
Here's the truth of it... TOB would be having a similar season if he was still here. The difference is that his 2014 incoming class would be ranked around 75th in the nation. Doeren's is around 25th.
We have no talent, no depth, and we also have a first year coach that is having to fit square pegs in round holes this season. Just write it off for what it is. A transition year. We're rebuilding. Accept it.
chevycolorado Nov 4, 4:31 p.m.
I agree with the concept that coaches need at least 3-4 years time to see the end results of team success.
Deman Nov 4, 4:27 p.m.
Thanks Ken...once again you are dead on.
As for NIU being in the Top 25, I think that shows that a solid system with good talent was left in place there for the new coach. Something Doeren will need more than one recruiting class to put in place here at State.
chevycolorado Nov 4, 4:18 p.m.
The successful years of both UNC and NC State in football can be attributed to having head coaches with good Southern recruiting bases, for example, Bill Dooley, Mack Brown, Butch Davis, Dick Sheridan, Lou Holtz, and Chuck Amato. All 6 of those mentioned had good solid recruiting bases in the Southeast, and therefore, brought success to both programs. It's when both schools had head coaches whom had roots in the Northeast or upper midwest (In this example, Dick Crum, and now Dave Doeren) whom have had the most difficulties. Tom O'Brien himself recruited north to get his players more regular than in state. Here it is so vital to employ head coaches whom can talk on the same level as the kids, locally and regionally, here in the Southeast. It's really too early to tell if Doeren can turn around NC State, but Larry Fedora so far I've seen at UNC, has got some good young talent, especially on offense, and some on defense.
It is important to hire a head coach whom has a good Southern recruiting base, because the successful years of both UNC and NC State were all due in part to coaches whom recruited the state well, and the region. Our failures in the past were from coaches, whom came from areas outside our region..
eYore Nov 4, 3:53 p.m.
The rest of us who didn't give a flip were out taking care of business. I was just glad I didn't have to go anywhere near the west side of Raleigh on Saturday. I feel sorry for all those wolves fans who felt like they just got rear ended after having to suffer another loss to the blue sheep of chapel hill.
NCTheTarheelState Nov 4, 3:19 p.m.
Wolfers are slowly coming out from licking their wounds all weekend. But of course most of them were away on a cruise.....LOLOLOLOL!!!!!
weaklings report Nov 4, 3:04 p.m.
I agree that we should be patient, but you have to question the decisions of going for it 4th and long inside your own 30, but not going for on 4th and short, twice, inside the unc 10 yd line....at 0-4, and playing a rival, you gotta try for td's when that close, IF you are going to gamble....that fake punt would have been ok, late in the game, if you were trailing , and even that's a little iffy
ACC Nation Nov 4, 3:03 p.m.
Larry Fedora called a fake punt out of his own end zone while at Southern Mississippi. It got the first down. I guess you are a hero if it works and a bum if it doesn't.
jmcdow2792 Nov 4, 2:16 p.m.
I agree that he has been a major contributor to three losses. And it was not just one play in each of the games. That third and one foot call inside the 10 against UNC where Mitchell ran a QB delay sweep (or whatever it was) and got caught for a loss was really cray. Just sneak or handoff. I have yet to hear him (D) take any blame for the losses in the press conferences. Always points to the players. We have to give him some more time to grow into the job, but I hope someone is watching closly and keeping score. I suspect that may be happening.
NCTheTarheelState Nov 4, 2:11 p.m.
He will get 5 years.....praise the lawd!!!!! LOLOL! Best thing to happen to UNC! Great call for the fake BTW!
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