Ken D. Nov 22, 11:41 a.m.
I'm starting this thread here because WRAL doesn't provide a general forum to discuss ongoing sports topics that don't directly involve local teams. Comments on news articles have no continuity as stories get bumped off the front page on a daily basis.
This particular story has ramifications for the Heisman trophy race as well as the final BCS championship game involving an ACC school. It even has the potential to involve Duke peripherally, in the event they win the Coastal Division next week.
Despite its national notoriety, there is a lot more that we don't know about this incident than what we do know. I'm interested in how other readers here feel about the situation.
KT Ringing The BELLmont Nov 22, 11:44 a.m.
We'll probably never get the whole truth on the case. I doubt the girl talks unless she's subpoenaed.
kato_karma2.8 Nov 22, 11:58 a.m.
The NCAA will most definitely subpoena here...
just like they did Lance's jeweler.
sportznutV2.1 Nov 22, 11:59 a.m.
Unfortunately in this day in age information, whether true, false, partly true, partly false, fabricated, fabricated by a rival etc....is available in almost real time on the internet. It is impossible to tell what is fact or not WHILE the story is developing. This story is still developing, I will wait until all the facts are in - whatever they may be.
Ken D. Nov 22, 12:00 p.m.
What we know so far (or at least what we have been told by various parties):
In early December, 2012, a Florida State student from Tampa filed a complaint with Tallahassee police alleging she was sexually assaulted. She was not able at that time to identify her alleged assailant. Apparently, a rape kit was obtained, since police did have a DNA sample from an unidentified male.
The police report indicates that the woman described her attacker as between 5'9" and 5'11". Jameis Winston is 6'4". The incident is said to have occurred at an off-campus apartment. Presumably, this would be where the Tallahassee police started their investigation.
At some point between the incident and early January, about a month later, Winston's name emerged in connection with the case. And, around this time, it appears that both the complainant and Winston had engaged lawyers to represent them. According to the plaintiff's attorney, the police (TPD) refused to seek a DNA sample from Winston to compare with the rape kit sample.
Within another month, TPD says the plaintiff "stopped cooperating" with the investigation and would not respond to inquiries. At that point, the TPD classified the case as inactive, and notified Winston's attorney that, in his words, the case was closed.
A couple of weeks ago, the case was apparently reactivated, though it isn't clear why, or at whose instigation.
kato_karma2.8 Nov 22, 12:04 p.m.
Pack Pride instigated.
sportznutV2.1 Nov 22, 12:14 p.m.
A lot of questions - of course ESPN reported JW DNA was found at the scene and he is claiming consensual sex..... right now the only thing for sure is that is a major disruption to FSU, it may become a big mess, I hope justice is served either way
Ken D. Nov 22, 12:17 p.m.
It appears there were at least four people in the apartment, if claims that there were two "eyewitnesses" who would corroborate Winston's story about what happened are true.
Let's assume for a minute that there were only the four people there. The fact she did not claim she was abducted would imply that the woman went voluntarily by herself to an apartment with three men she did not know. OK. It happens in college.
Envision this possibility. The woman agrees to go to the bedroom with Winston, a tall, studly athlete who probably has some confidence in his sexual prowess given that he had been a BMOC all his life. She has unprotected sex with him, without even knowing his name. Maybe alcohol was involved. When they emerge, one of the other men views her as easy, and is willing to settle for sloppy seconds. Maybe Winston eggs him on. He forces himself on her, or at least tries to.
It is this second encounter, possibly involving a 5'10"-ish man, that causes the woman to consider the entire event a single sexual assault. She describes the second guy to police because the first sex was consensual.
Later, when she somehow learns that the stud she had voluntary sex with is a big football star, she engages a lawyer who sees a big payday in her future.
kato_karma2.8 Nov 22, 12:23 p.m.
It was a lacrosse player...
dressed in dark blue.
dooksucks 11 Nov 22, 12:53 p.m.
She was inebriated and could not willingly consent. Multiple people were involved and after his name came up, someone paid her to stay quiet.
That is a long version made short, but something made this case get pushed along after laying dormant for months.
Ken D. Nov 22, 4:18 p.m.
To me, that's the $64 question. Who profits from resurrecting this case now?
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