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  • ihurttheabcersfeelings Dec 12, 4:17 p.m.
    Bench Warmer

    did they charge him with child abuse after what he did to dook sat night?

  • Toddler10-21 Dec 12, 4:14 p.m.
    Sports Legend

    The kid will carry this for the rest of his life. He was cleared, and some on here are already calling him a rapist.

  • Mr. Hans Dec 12, 10:39 a.m.
    Veteran

    If it were just the athletic departments who want to win at any cost, the problem wouldn't... View More

    You can watch it all begin at the youth level. It's pretty sick.

  • Dr. PwntV2 Dec 11, 10:24 p.m.
    All Star

    @WTSPMelanie - BREAKING: Just spoke with family of Jameis Winston's accuser. Her lawyer plans to hold presser Friday. Family says, "It's gonna be good."

  • Ken D. Nov 23, 10:38 a.m.
    Sports Legend

    What's your opinion of this article? Scary stuff regarding FSU...

    http://deadspin.com/jameis-winst... View More

    — Posted by emb

    It's easy to see why the author of this piece wasn't identified.

    The sad part of it is that you could change the name of the school to almost any school playing FBS football and it would be just as believable.

    Every school has some outstanding, motivated students who play football. These young men will be our future leaders. But most of them also have a much smaller number of athletes who behave as described in that article, and who are enabled by weak and/or sympathetic faculty who want to be seen as team players. The difference between winning and losing in big time college football is pretty small, and these bad apples are often enough the margin of victory.

    If it were just the athletic departments who want to win at any cost, the problem wouldn't be so great. Too often the problem lies with the fat cat trustee who lives vicariously through his school's football team. Just like on these smack talk forums, he sees himself competing with other fat cats who live vicariously through other teams. I don't see that culture changing anytime soon. America's motto isn't "We're excellent". It's "We're Number One" and too many of us will do what it takes to make that happen.

  • emb Nov 23, 10:31 a.m.
    Towel Boy

    Based on that writing, it's likely there are more than one disgruntled faculty members at FSU. What's written there is mind-boggling IMO. One of my parents was a long time college professor and administrator at an ACC school. I've been told stories of coaches who were out of control, nothing like this though...

  • Ken D. Nov 23, 10:00 a.m.
    Sports Legend

    She is who can profit, unfortunately. Even more intriguing is why did the case wait to be... View More

    — Posted by jabparker4

    It seems to me that, if the woman's goal is financial profit, she is better served by keeping this quiet than by prosecuting in criminal court. From what little we know, the burden of reasonable doubt would be hard to overcome, and an acquittal would undermine her civil case.

    If she isn't looking for money, but justice, the timing of this is suspect. If Winston were to be charged now, and subsequently suspended from the team, many fans would blame her for costing them a national championship (which they would no doubt assume would have been a given had he played). Some of those folks would wind up on his jury, where they would have "reasonable doubt" as to his guilt.

    So who could both profit in some way (not necessarily financially) and also have some inkling that there was an accusation in the first place (not likely an Ohio State or Baylor fan)? Perhaps a disgruntled faculty member (see the link provided by emb above)?

    This case may be squirrelly, but it goes to the heart of the football culture in our country. So close to the heart that there are going to be a lot of people interested in squelching it.

  • emb Nov 23, 8:10 a.m.
    Towel Boy

    What's your opinion of this article? Scary stuff regarding FSU...

    http://deadspin.com/jameis-winston-isnt-the-only-problem-here-an-fsu-teac-1467707410?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_twitter&utm_source=deadspin_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow

  • larrys080return of the Tarheel Nov 23, 4:41 a.m.
    Pro

    My opinion?

    She was inebriated and could not willingly consent. Multiple people were involved... View More

    — Posted by dooksucks 11

    To me, that's the $64 question. Who profits from resurrecting this case now?

    — Posted by Ken D.

    Dook?

    — Posted by NCheatStateU

    Bingo!!

    The stars have aligned for Duke this year in football! With a probable Coastal division title on the way for them and a matchup against FSU in the ACC Championship game who would benefit the most if Winston didn't play?

  • jabparker4 Nov 22, 9:43 p.m.
    Veteran

    She is who can profit, unfortunately. Even more intriguing is why did the case wait to be reopened AFTER Winston became the hottest commodity in CFB? It comes across like she knew it was consenual and only later claimed rape when his notoreity sky rocketed, looking a payday. Of course he could be a lying rapist who forced her into having sex, attempted to pay her off early and then when she realized how popular he had gotten decided to reopen the file.

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