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O'Brien continues arguing against facing UNC in regular season finale

Posted August 10, 2009
Updated August 11, 2009

— Last month, Tom O'Brien said he did not like how N.C. State is scheduled to play North Carolina in the 2009 regular season finale.

The Wolfpack coach wanted to make one thing clear at his team's preseason media day. He doesn't want to face any team from the ACC Coastal Division in that final game.

"I said [the same thing] a year ago before we played Miami," O'Brien said. "Of course, nobody listened then. But when you say it [this year], because it's North Carolina, everybody listens and thinks it's something else."

In O'Brien's mind, a potential rematch with Carolina one week later in the ACC championship game in Tampa is bad for the rivalry and the ACC.

"No other conference that plays a conference championship game ever does that," he said. "I think if we're going to have a football league and be a major player, you can't be playing games like that when you might have to play each other the next week ... We're going to play Carolina the last game of the year. Now, if we're both going to play in Tampa, what's the most important game? That game out there [in Carter-Finley Stadium], what does that mean?"

O'Brien points to the Big 12 and how that conference has created excitement with late-season games within the division. In 2007, Missouri beat Kansas to win the Big 12 North in the regular season finale when both teams entered with both conference and national title hopes. The same scenario happened again last year in the Big 12 South when Oklahoma and Texas Tech squared off in the last regular season game.

"If they want us to play Carolina at the end [of the regular season], change divisions," O'Brien said. "Let's get in their division and play them."

When asked if his arguments will make a difference, O'Brien replied, "I don't know. I'm just a football coach."

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  • TruthBKnown Banned Again02 Aug 13, 12:06 p.m.

    Hmmm Tom has a point, but I see Va Tech and the Pack in the title game. However, the pack will... View More

    — Posted by thewolfman1978

    I'd love to see it, wolfman!

  • thewolfman1978 Aug 12, 9:57 p.m.

    Hmmm Tom has a point, but I see Va Tech and the Pack in the title game. However, the pack will have played the Hokies just 2 weeks earlier.

  • TruthBKnown Banned Again02 Aug 12, 1:37 p.m.

    And what's with all the posts about gays, anyway?

  • TruthBKnown Banned Again02 Aug 12, 1:36 p.m.

    I love the possibility of back to back games against Moo U at the end of the season. Bring It... View More

    — Posted by Nobody but Carolina

    Let me get this straight. You're a Carolina fan, and you're actually looking forward to the State game?

    First of all, I didn't think we were a rival enough that you would care. ;)

    Secondly, State's looking much more solid now than they were last year. And this game is in Carter-Finley Stadium. Just wanted to point that out...... good chance TOB makes it three in a row over Butch.

  • TruthBKnown Banned Again02 Aug 12, 1:33 p.m.

    There are other coaches out there that are kinda in the same situation. All don't get the... View More

    — Posted by Hokies94

    It's not that it's a road game. It's that it's a cross-divisional game. We could possibly play two weekends in a row. Since the second meeting is for the ACC championship, which meeting would the teams take more seriously? It could be a situation like in the NFL when a team already knows its seeding in the playoffs, they sometimes bench their starters in the last regular season game.

    The last game really should either be a division game, or an out-of-conference game.

    It really doesn't matter. Whenever we play, we need to win the game. But I can see TOB's point. And a lot of people agree with him on this.

  • sportznut628 Aug 12, 11:46 a.m.

    This just in, yet another Carolina fan has homosexual tendencies.

    — Posted by ncsuspam

    This just in: Yet another State fan still thinks being homosexual is an insult.

    — Posted by cutclifferules

    I think some wuffies need to get in touch with these people. They are right on campus and want... View More

    — Posted by wottop

    Yawsssaaaaaaaaa

  • wottop Aug 12, 8:56 a.m.

    This just in, yet another Carolina fan has homosexual tendencies.

    — Posted by ncsuspam

    This just in: Yet another State fan still thinks being homosexual is an insult.

    — Posted by cutclifferules

    I think some wuffies need to get in touch with these people. They are right on campus and want to educate their fellow students.

    http://www.ncsu.edu/stud_affairs/glbt/aboutus/index.php

  • Nobody but Carolina Aug 11, 7:53 p.m.

    I love the possibility of back to back games against Moo U at the end of the season. Bring It On (but it's not likely both will make the Championsip Game)!!!

  • Hokies94 Aug 11, 4:29 p.m.

    There are other coaches out there that are kinda in the same situation. All don't get the perfect schedule. UNC and State are the biggest rivals in football in our state. But, it is in the books now. Maybe they will change it next year. I remember when VT had several of their last games on the road.

  • shakennotstirred Aug 11, 3:22 p.m.

    ^on his way to chapled hole...

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