Jeff Gravley

Not much value in preseason picks, polls and all-conference teams

Posted July 19, 2013
Updated July 22, 2013

Preseason polls and all-conference teams are great to combat the hunger pangs we have for college football. They can also provide motivation for a team or player depending on how dissed they feel. This Sunday the media will cast their votes for a predicted finish in the ACC and it will create a conversation. But I wouldn't put any cash down based on a preseason poll. 

Virginia Tech and Florida State were picked to play for the ACC championship last year. It wound up being the Seminoles opposite Georgia Tech with FSU taking the title. Last year the SEC media thought LSU and Georgia would play in the conference title game. The Tide topped Georgia to claim the title.

I agree with selecting teams in a preseason conference poll. I'm not a big fan of a Top 25 poll until after the 3rd week, but I understand the reason why there is a weekly poll and have even voted in it. But I don't give a hoot about a preseason all-conference team and I especially don't give a rip about a watch list of 35 players up for one of the national awards!

Individuals change from year to year and so do teams.

So just because your team isn't picked to win the league, that doesn't mean it won't happen. Some have a better chance than others and you know that, I don't care how big of a fan you are of your team. 

This is the poll that I will turn in to the ACC on Sunday and boy does it seem odd to be adding Syracuse and Pittsburgh to the mix!

ATLANTIC DIVISION

  1. Clemson
  2. Florida State
  3. NC State
  4. Maryland
  5. Wake Forest
  6. Syracuse
  7. Boston College

COASTAL DIVISION

  1. Miami
  2. Georgia Tech
  3. North Carolina
  4. Virginia Tech
  5. Pittsburgh
  6. Duke
  7. Virginia

     

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  • Gunnstigator Jul 19, 7:40 p.m.

    I agree about the "value" of preseason polls; they rarely accurately predict the outcome of the season for players and teams. There were years Carolina was picked preseason to win it all preseason, then the injury bug bit Kendall Marshall, John Henson and the Heels' dreams and expectations. On the Pro front, in 2006, The Canes were picked to finish at the bottom of the NHL, and guess who was hoisting Lord Stanley's Cup that June!

    There may not be much value in preseason picks and polls, but it does serve as water cooler discussion and internet fodder for fans until kickoff, tipoff and the puck is dropped.

  • Sauras69 Jul 19, 10:42 p.m.

    I'll be the first to respond to this topic regarding the pre-season football. The pre-season polls always get some major hits, and this is the main purpose in picking; or should I say selecting teams, players, wins, losses, and etc...

    The 3rd week isn't long enough in picking in my opinion, Jeff. History shows us that way too many teams falter after the schedule gets a bunch tougher. I would challenge you to say that after the 5th game would be a better gauge in determining success. I will agree that VT was a bust last year in the picks. We didn't have any OL play. Nothing from Logan Thomas. Very little from Special Teams, and we were lucky to beat Rutgers in a Bowl game. New coaches will get us better than 4th. Thankfully, Beamer finally fired a few for the first time.

    I may make this trek to G'Boro on Sunday.

  • jmcdow2792 Jul 20, 6:34 a.m.

    I agree that the value of polls in the first three weeks (or even first five weeks) are useless. But, I would add, that they are unfair. Teams that have a high ranking and those that they play get an advantage in the polls and or computer rankings that are often not accurate. These inaccurate rankings and advantages can, however, last through the entire season. I would vote for five weeks to begin the polling.

  • hsiflee Jul 20, 5:05 p.m.

    I agree that the value of polls in the first three weeks (or even first five weeks) are useless.... View More

    — Posted by jmcdow2792

    ...Don't worry, State won't even be close to the end with a 7-5 mediocre football record again). Kay Yow is on the 5 year plan and that will probably only apply to baseball, tennis, track and the other "Country Club" sports...Rebuttal?

  • 4tarheels Jul 20, 6:02 p.m.

    I agree about waiting on the top 25 rankings.

  • Honesty first Jul 20, 6:29 p.m.

    Jeff, Did the media actually pick LSU to beat Alabama in the conference Championship? Since they are in the same division, that is impossible. That is why Alabama played UGA.

  • TarHeels 23 Jul 20, 9:45 p.m.

    Preseason polls mean nothing...just ask Gottfired.

  • 4tarheels Jul 20, 10:15 p.m.

    You wanna get rid of preseason polls? Start firing writers who get them wrong.

  • Objective Scientist Jul 21, 3:08 p.m.

    It seems in today's society we "can't wait for ANYTHING"!!! The media is so focused on "scooping" one another and "being FIRST to report something that accuracy is often the "sacrificial lamb". Anytime anyone is going to make an "announcement" we always know what is going to be announced before it is formally announced!!! Why even bother with the formal announcement - just excecute a press release and be done with it! What purpose, other than fodder for conversation, debate/arguments, perhaps the occasional "fistfight" even, is served by all the preseason "stuff". Regarding sport - ANY sport - there are so many factors that can change and/or that are truly UNPREDICTABLE - that impact an individual athlete's performance, a teams performance in any one game, in any one season - that it is truly "foolhardy" to even attempt to "predict" anything. All sport fans know that you can look at player matchuups, history of the athlete, the team, the program, the coach, etc. and conclude that a particular team will "most assuredly win over another particular team. However, we also know that sometimes the "underdog" wins!!! That is WHY we play the game!!! I pay NO attention to the preseason "stuff" - I truly ignore it - it is meaningless!!! Those that like to do and get all "worked up" talking about it/debating it... no problem. However - it is NOT for me!!!!

  • nctaxguy Jul 21, 6:11 p.m.

    Only a media member who spends more time worrying about tearing down the athletic program of the school that is the rival of their alma mater than learning who's in each division in the SEC would make such an asinine statement regarding LSU and Bama playing each other in the SEC Championship game.

    Try again you Wolfpecker hack!

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