WHY CAM WILL BE OUT OF FOOTBALL BY 2015

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  • StunGunn Feb 14, 2012
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    I was not a Cam fan at the beginning of the season, but after watching him, I am now. What he did for the Panthers is remarkable. Will some teams figure him out? Probably. WIll he have a "sophomore slump"? Maybe. But I will tell you that I had more fun watching the Panthers this year than I have in the last few years.

  • VT1994Hokie Feb 12, 2012
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    Cam will be the franchise player after next season. He will haul down some of JD's money.

  • VT1994Hokie Feb 10, 2012
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    Just went back to check on the Panthers. Cam will be the top ticket down there. He isn't going anywhere. His millions will be increased. If they get a D they will win.

  • The Argyle Beast Jan 30, 2012
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    Straight on that

  • got2golf2 Jan 15, 2012
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    Cam has the talent, but if the Panthers lose Chud, he may begin to look a lot more average. But to say he will be out in 3 years is just stupid. The only way he is out in 3 years would be with a career ending injury. Also, I wish you would change your nickname, you could not have gone to Duke and be that stupid. Newton has an entirely different skill set than any of the other quarterbacks you listed.

  • rherring23 Jan 10, 2012
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    So we live in America where you have the right to free speech, but you are no longer innocent until proven guilty. Never convicted or even tried for the larceny charge and all investigations found that Cam had nothing to do with his father's actions. So you judge and condem somebody when nothing has been proven against them. You use America, freedom of speech, but you don't use America, innocent until proven guilty. I guess that part of this country doesn't fit your needs. Yeah, its clear to see in your statements that it is hate and it is clear that you are very hypocritical. So if you are not convicted of something you are guilty and if somebody in your family does something wrong, you are guilty. Yeah, you really make Americans proud. So, next time why don't you drop all the it isn't hate bs and your rights in America and just be honest. You sure don't believe in those rights, only ones that benefit you and you judge and condem people without knowing the facts, even though they might be innocent. Yep, we need more Americans like you.

  • cherokeetomahawk Jan 5, 2012
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    This may or may not be true. If he's out of football somewhat quickly, look on your TV. He and his "old man" may be featured on "Lockdown".

  • Heyman Jan 3, 2012
    Towel Boy

    I understand dukeblue 82, but this not your average quarterback.

  • cherokeetomahawk Jan 3, 2012
    Veteran

    Every time I see a blog concerning "the Cam", one thing is obvious. If you say anything against him, you are given the title "hater."

    Some of you guys should learn that negative statements doesn't always translate the "hate" syndrome you attest. After all, we still live in America and are guaranteed the right to speak, (I know this irks some of you) even though you may disagree.

    Most people remember when Cam received "The Heisman", his dad was advised to remain outside the room. What a glaring example of honesty and truthfulness concerning Cam and his dad who aided in spawning him into life.

    Also, I think his grand larceny charge (later dismissed) in Florida doesn't exactly place Cam as a poster boy for "doing things the right way."

    I hope the "camber gear" has learned from his mistakes. However, I'll have to admit he would be welcomed in any of my stores, provided my security people could watch every move he makes.

  • GhostofSmitty Dec 26, 2011
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    Hey, Hokie, he should get "sharpest dressed of the year" too. Man was styling in that post game presser. I'm predicting a GQ cover in less than a year!

  • dsalter Dec 25, 2011
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    Cam Newton has no comparison with Vick. He's a lot bigger for one thing....and can certainly run, but similarites end there. He's being used more in the passing game all the time, with some running plays but next season we'll see a lot more passing and a lot less depending on the run. However, there's not ONE team in the NFL looking forward to playing this team....even this year. Just think about next season when he's got a year under his belt and has Gettis back to help out on receiving. If you don't like the guy...you can dial up multiple reasons why ahe won't be around. But, so far, not one iota of talking heads predictions have come true, so I doubt someone who like the rest of us just guesses what might happen states his opinion.

  • VT1994Hokie Dec 25, 2011
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    Did you catch his stats this year? He is a great QB, and all of his stats, and leadership carry weight with us that played and coached this great game. He's going to be the Rookie of the Year. Do you think that will keep him hanging until 2015? He's going to be a Pro Bowler one day.

  • VT1994Hokie Dec 25, 2011
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    Cam Newton has done a great job as a 1st year player. The defense has been suspect except in a few games. Newton will be the Rookie of the Year.

  • sirg0rd Dec 25, 2011
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    You obviously have not a single clue about the game nor do you recognize talent.
    Suggest you repeat NFL 101.

    P.S. Visit your ophthalmologist for a new refraction. Suggest a new eye doc you are not using bifocals already.

  • scousler Dec 19, 2011
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    Cam is a physical specimen loaded with natural abilities and an extremely good competitive attitude. He makes mistakes in his offensive reads and sometimes fails to put the right touch on some throws, but not often. His ad lib passing skills are not yet up to par. He executes called plays very quickly and effectively, and he can thread the needle when necessary as good as any QB on the league.

    His wonderlic score was not level at 21, proving he is capable of learning and improving at the position - Jim Kelly and Dan Marino had lower scores. He is bigger than Tebow, quicker, just as tough on the run, but has a much better arm.

    Baring major injury, Cam will have a long and successful NFL career of at least 10 years, maybe longer. He has played consistently better than Vince Young, Mike Vick, JaMarcus Russell, Donovan McNabb, Russell Cunningham, or any other rookie running QB that I can think of. I would say he's on par with a QB like Fran Tarkington, and has better physical skills than Fran and can pick up the offensive pass progressions with a year of off season review and preparation.

    Cam has already had a better rookie year than Tarkington did. If Cam is ever paired with the kind of defense that Tark or McNabb played with - expect equal or better results.

    To say that Cam has already reached his peak and will decline rather than progress in his skills does not jive with his attitude - Cam wants to win and will do what it takes to get to the top and stay there. I was not on the Newton bandwagon at first and thought it was a big mistake for the Panthers to draft him - but it was one of the best draft picks ever - he is the real deal.

  • dukeblue82 Dec 16, 2011
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    I hate to say I told you so, but...

  • littleriver69 Dec 15, 2011
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    Go Panters? Whats a Panter?

  • dtd1961 Dec 14, 2011
    Pro

    Compared to the last two seasons, I have a real big smile on my face. Cam can only get better, but the Defense that is another story.Until the Panthers shore up the D-line and linebackers Cam will just have to pad his stats.

  • BlueDeviIs00 Dec 13, 2011
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    Vince Young, Mark Sanchez, Ben Roethlisberger, Joe Flacco, Matt Ryan, TIM TEBOW.... just naming a few rookie QB's that that managed to filter out the turnovers by the end of the season. Not all of them had stellar defense's to play with, either.

  • BlueDeviIs00 Dec 13, 2011
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    How many passes did he throw out of bounds down the sideline? Both of his interceptions were HORRIBLE. An underhanded shovel pass with his left hand as he's falling to the ground, and a direct throw into triple coverage over the middle. These are reads that are pretty simple to make-- DONT THROW THE BALL. He continues to struggle with his accuracy as well, missing wide-open receivers atleast 5 or 6 times a game. No one is expecting this kid to be the next Brees, Brady or Rodgers... but if he could just cut back on the turnovers we'd probably be staring 8-8 or 9-7 in the face. Instead, we're sitting at 4-9 with games against New Orleans and Houston. Poor ending to what seemed to be a promising season.

  • BlueDeviIs00 Dec 13, 2011
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    After driving from Raleigh to Charlotte and spending $300+ to see the Epic Fail that is the Carolina Panthers and Cam Newton, I now agree this thread. He may not be out of football, but he will be out of a starting job if he continues to make these mistakes. You could make the argument that Cam is REGRESSING throughout the course of this year. When was the last time he threw for 300yards? I think it's pretty clear that NFL Defenses have caught up with Cam and found a way to contain him. By only rushing 4 and dropping 7 into coverage, they force Cam to make NFL-caliber reads, which he cannot do. He continues to make mind-boggling plays, both positive and negative. But until he can harness his raw physical talent and arm strength to go with his (lack of) a mental approach, he will continue to turn the ball over and cost us games.

  • jrj6950 Dec 6, 2011
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    +1

    Just saw this thread because I haven't been on these boards in awhile. But Cam is built like a tight end and he can take hits. He is NOT Michael Vick, who is a fragile little girl.

  • cussmikemeout Nov 30, 2011
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    He'll be too old, and in the Hall of Fame.

  • GhostofSmitty Nov 30, 2011
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    True that. Off the charts potential because he is a QB that runs, not a runner who is a QB. He will rewrite the book on who can be a QB at the JV level and beyond. Dilfer LOVES him. Wait till he has a full off season of pro development.

  • UNC9196 Nov 30, 2011
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    Dude, please get a clue before posting this garbage. Have you even watched him play? He's a game changer, quit being dumb.

  • rherring23 Nov 27, 2011
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    Oh and by the way, in case you didn't know it, McNabb, Young and Vick are still playing. I can see how Cam would follow them, how many years has McNabb been playing, Vick? and Young is still there, also Russell. I see all these guys were out in about 4-5 years. Newton is a better qb than either one of them. He has a strong arm and his accuracy will get better as he gains experience. He is only 21 on a team beat up with injuries and not much of a pre-season. And still he is setting all kinds of rookie records. He has better stats than P Manning did as a rookie.

  • rherring23 Nov 27, 2011
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    That is really a funny statement. Come back and make another one when you learn something about football. Newton has already set several rookie records and his stats are better than Manning's was or any other rookie qb. The defense is the problem with the team being they have lost their best defensive player and have had 5 linebackers injured this year. Not to mention 2 offensive linemen also. The Panthers will not even look at another qb unless it is a late pick as a back-up. Also, the worst record, like I said make another post when you learn something about football. It is better to keep one's mouth closed and be thought a fool, then to open one's mouth and remove all doubt. It is clear that you just don't like Newton or the Panthers and don't have a clue what you are talking about.

  • rherring23 Nov 27, 2011
    Sports Legend

    Newton will be a very good qb. Sure the NFL teams will adapt their defenses against him next year, but he will also adapt, you can already see signs of that. This is still a young qb, he has a beat up offensive line, he did not have a full pre-season to get ready for the NFL and that is a real big deal in going from college to pro. He does not seem to have a run first mentality as the qbs he is being compared to. Also he has a very strong arm and his accuracy will improve. The only way he wil be out of football is if he gets injured. Saying he got by against college teams is kind of funny, he was a college player playing against college player from Alabama, LSU, Georgia, etc. Now he is a pro player playing against pro players from Alabama, LSU, Georgia, etc. No difference, they have progressed from college, but so has he.

  • NC State #1 Fan Nov 23, 2011
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    I think Newton will have a great career. We will get a top ten draft pick this year and draft a receiver to help him out. Our poor record has been because of the injuries we have had on defense.

  • numbaonecamfan Nov 22, 2011
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    panthers never been a superbowl team this is the panthers greatest offensive year ever with cam at qb. honestly this the best they ever been, they may be lacking defensively compared to previous years but thats only cause peppers went to chicago. smith and williams are getting their max potential with a superbowl qb. so no matter how u look at it, this is the panthers best offensive year ever. the defence just needs to step theyre game up and take some pressure off the qb, aswell as the offensive line provide more coverage to allow better throws. quit hatin.

  • robster Nov 21, 2011
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    What's going to be funny is when the Panthers have the worse record in the NFL again this year and have the top pick in the draft. Will they get rid of one ineffective rookie QB for anothere one? Should be interesting...stay tuned...

  • cherokeetomahawk Nov 17, 2011
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    I cannot imagine. He was certainly the best player money could buy at Auburn.

  • GhostofSmitty Nov 8, 2011
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    Luck is an unknown and yes, at this point I will take Cam. Every expert out there says the kids is light years ahead of where he should be or they thought he would be. Cam is doing things that he did not have to do in college. Dilfer raves about the guy and he has the MENTAL ability to grasp the position and excel. His teamates love playing with him and believe in him and his off the field behavior has been outstanding. He is a passing QB that can run, Vince was a running QB that could pass. Big diff. And as Dilfer said, some guys are just born to throw a football, Newton is one of them. Get the O line healthy and give Newton a training camp and watch out.

  • numbaonecamfan Nov 8, 2011
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    NFL defence is not gonna catch up with him cause i been watchin everygame game and he dont even bother navigating in the pocket he just absorbs every qb sack if any like once in a blue moon other than late hits i mean u can think wut u want but dudes not lettin em play em

  • TarheelStateNative Nov 7, 2011
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    Maybe they should lose the rest of games and draft Sean Renfree.

  • numbaonecamfan Nov 6, 2011
    Bench Warmer

    *panthersound*

  • numbaonecamfan Nov 6, 2011
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    cam newton aint but 21 he guna b playin till his 40's

  • sheriann1964 Nov 5, 2011
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    panthers needs a good defense aint noting wrong with cam newton

  • backnblack1969 Nov 2, 2011
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    mowron

  • scousler Nov 2, 2011
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    Kasey was let go only because he couldn't produce the booming kickoffs that are coveted today with the shortened return end. Cam is the real deal - nabbing him now gives the Panthers much flexibility in the draft, and they will be able to acquire some real talent at d-line and o-line, which they really need. Expect them to finish above .500 in the second half though looking at a possible 7-9, 8-8 or maybe even 9-7 finish. They might not make the top 5 for draft pick status - but their draft position will still be formidable with a major piece of their team already done.

  • The Dire_Wolf Nov 2, 2011
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    If you watch Cam play you will see that he doesn't rely on his athleticism to make plays unless he has to. I thought drafting Cam was a horrible decision, but I can see I was totally wrong about the kid. Stays in the pocket, makes some pin-point accurate throws (see last weeks toss to Steve Smith at the goal line) and most of all has the right work ethic and attitude. Keep in mind to that he came from a spread offense and missed a significant amount of the offseason due to the lock out and is doing this well. While Cam does need to work on his accuracy and decision making a bit, I'm more than impressed with him thus far. On a side note, why, why, why did they let John Kasey go?

  • Cragsdale Oct 31, 2011
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    Because he can't understand what Cam has done thus far. Yes Cam has natural talent, Rivera has done an exceptional job with what he's got on the field. The Panthers need a secondary that can stop the pass. Our Safeties suck. point blank. We have great LBs, an OK D-line (definitely could use some upgrades), but Overall, the Panthers are an inch away from figuring it all out. Cam is learning every day and he's getting better every day at reading the D.

    The OP is hating because he's probably a colts fan.

  • bradleyholt Oct 31, 2011
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    I want Cam instead of luck. Big strong fast and has a touch on the ball. Luck will have a career that mirrors Carson Palmer and that is a good career.

  • GhostofSmitty Oct 27, 2011
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    I was listening to Dilfer talking about Cam the other day on Colin Cowherd, and man, Dilfer loves him. Says he was born to throw a football and is redefining the QB position at a basic level (7th&8th grade). Said in the Washington game he made about 6 throws that only Brees/Rogers types can make. In the future Dilfer thinks the bigger guys who get put at wideout or tightend or LB may now be looked at as a QB because of Cam. I'm on the CAMWAGON!

    Here is the upside too, how many great players out there who are young and looking to get to a future condender, will now look at the Panthers in free agency, hooking up to the CAMWAGON.

  • starkstrotman Oct 27, 2011
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    So how many professional football games have you started on let alone played in. have you coached anything but your mouth! I bet you you are a continued failure withthe ladies also.

  • shepherdofwolves Oct 26, 2011
    All Star

    While I disagree with the OP, he failed to mention the best argument to support his case: Daunte Culpepper.

    Pro-bowler his first year as starter, two more pro bowls in the next 4 years, then got hurt and sucked it up for the next five years fading out of the league. QBs who rely on their athleticism often don't develop the other skills necessary to succeed in the league, and so once they get hurt and their athleticism doesn't come back to 100%, then can't make the same plays.

  • BlueDeviIs00 Oct 26, 2011
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    DukeBLue you are nothing more than a HATER! i dont' think Cam's arm strength, physical strength, or running ability will deteriorate any time soon. And as for your argument about Defense's learning how to play Cam, how about Cam learning how to read defenses? This kid has been nothing but great in the locker room, film study, etc. He will be a top-5 NFL QB within 2 years.

  • GhostofSmitty Oct 24, 2011
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    Right Bev, go Panthers. My worries about Cam, and I blogged with another guy about this before the draft, was not anything other than guys who are very athletic and talented, be they black or white (Tebow & Newton) are allowed to win games the way they did in High School, with their raw ability, and the college coaches don't want to upset the apple cart to fix fundamental flaws. I remember pre-draft talk about Tyrod Taylor, and how he had to change delivery and his approach to be a passing QB. Beamer is a phenomenal coach but even he can't spend 2 of a kids 4 years trying to change a style that may not be able to be changed or may have detrimental results or render the player less productive than they were with the old habits. It gets back to short term sacrifice of wins to the long term development of the player, which I don't think any college coach has the luxury of doing.

    Cam's ability to adjust to the pro game, and the reads, has many experts who were questioning him coming back and saying he is making reads and some types of throws that only Brees/Rogers/Manning can make right now, and he is a ROOKIE. After seeing Otah go down again, a 1st round pick, it's great to see Marty Hearney and company (Ron Rivera) hit a walk off grand slam home run that Jerry and the Panthers desperately needed. I was working in Charlotte pre-draft and was there the day Luck decided to not come out and it was like someone dropped a boo-bomb on the Panthers. PSLs being sold for nothing, people falling into toilets, mass hysteria. I don't know how much of a impact Ron Rivera made in draft selection but Herney's track record has not been good, but this one, with Rivera's help, has saved his job IMHTHO.

  • redistrumps Oct 23, 2011
    Sports Legend

    Well it is hard for me to say I am with cuss and lsmtih on this one, but as cuss so accurately pointed out to me last weekend, we may pull for opposite college teams but on Sundays we are pulling for the same team. I was not wanting Cam as well because of his dad baggage, but now I am convinced.

    GO PANTHERS!!

  • GhostofSmitty Oct 23, 2011
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    I'm with you Cuss. I was not in the Cam camp at first as I wanted to see if he was the real thing. Well, he is. The Panthers got a steal with him. He is so far and away better than Vince Young it's scary. He is smart, learns fast, reads defenses very well, can throw the ball like no tomorrow, and run when needed. Steve Smith loves him and that is a huge compliment as Steve is slow to praise. Newton may end up making Luck look like a amateur as Luck is unproven in the NFL, and Cam is. Excellent win today. I love the play calling and the D showed up. Panthers have some holes and need some depth but the stadium was packed and Cam puts em in the seats. Everyone I know is talking about the Panthers.

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